Hey Adam,

see below for comments...

From: "Adrocknaphobia Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day


> You know Bryan, a good amount of people on this list have invested their
> careers in Cold Fusion.

Yes that includes me...full-time CF and nothing else for 5 years

 The futures of their families come back to MM. I
> think CF Developers have every right to be critical of MM, as I think
> everyone should be critical of their financial future.

Informed criticism is fine...doomsaying is not

>
> Sadly, many people who trusted in corporations have seen their savings &
> retirement disappear. I don't mean to get all mellow-dramatic, but this
> discussion is extremely healthy and benefits the developers. Personally,
> I have better things to worry about than if I'm making an a$$ of myself.
>
> Seriously, when you stop asking questions, you're giving over control.

Didn't I just say to ask questions and not just assume things as fact (or
outright make them up)?? ;-)

>
> Adam Wayne Lehman
> Web Systems Developer
> Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> Distance Education Division
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan@;electricedgesystems.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day
>
> Nope..I think it's here to stay.  That said, if the community continues
> to
> slam the company so hard mabye they'll just drop CF out of spite!!
>
> Everyone on this list (with a few exceptions) does NOT have all the
> pieces
> of the puzzle.  If you don't know the whole story, ask about the parts
> you're missing of just stay quiet.
>
> As they say..assume makes and a$$ out of "u" and "me" ;-)
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day
>
>
> > does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside?
> >
> > ..tony
> >
> > Tony Weeg
> > Senior Web Developer
> > Information System Design
> > Navtrak, Inc.
> > Fleet Management Solutions
> > www.navtrak.net
> > 410.548.2337
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:23 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day
> >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products.
> Everyone
> > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a
> little
> > over a year ago.
> >
> > The sad fact of the matter is that MS is more trustworthy than MM,
> when
> > it comes to secure futures for its developers. I mean, C# could be the
> > biggest failure of all time, but MS would ride it out and C#
> developers
> > would have jobs for a long time to come. JSP is stable, because it's
> not
> > a company centric language. It's the CF developers who are up late at
> > night wondering what the future holds.
> >
> > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance.
> > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and
> > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :)
> >
> > I'd just like to take this opportunity to encourage everyone to learn
> a
> > new language. Even if you don't use it extensively, you can at least
> > secure peace-of-mind.
> >
> > Adam Wayne Lehman
> > Web Systems Developer
> > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
> > Distance Education Division
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:52 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day
> >
> >   The fact that I have seen the same ( or similar ) words said a bunch
> > of
> > times on this list makes me suspicious of them.
> >
> > At 03:32 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >that is correct. we are not cutting back. in fact, we will be
> > dedicating
> > >more resources to the coldfusion community.
> > >
> > >mike chambers
> > >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone@;optonline.net]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that
> > > > MM is cutting
> > > > back.  Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows.  As with
> > the
> > > > Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT sub-folder for
> > > > cf-talk), people
> > > > start assuming and making stuff up before they know the whole
> story!
> > > >
> > > > On that note, I am glad that Vernon will be around as he's a
> > > > good voice of
> > > > reason to this list, at least in my opinion.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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