Hey Adam, see below for comments...
From: "Adrocknaphobia Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > You know Bryan, a good amount of people on this list have invested their > careers in Cold Fusion. Yes that includes me...full-time CF and nothing else for 5 years The futures of their families come back to MM. I > think CF Developers have every right to be critical of MM, as I think > everyone should be critical of their financial future. Informed criticism is fine...doomsaying is not > > Sadly, many people who trusted in corporations have seen their savings & > retirement disappear. I don't mean to get all mellow-dramatic, but this > discussion is extremely healthy and benefits the developers. Personally, > I have better things to worry about than if I'm making an a$$ of myself. > > Seriously, when you stop asking questions, you're giving over control. Didn't I just say to ask questions and not just assume things as fact (or outright make them up)?? ;-) > > Adam Wayne Lehman > Web Systems Developer > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > Distance Education Division > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:bryan@;electricedgesystems.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:43 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day > > Nope..I think it's here to stay. That said, if the community continues > to > slam the company so hard mabye they'll just drop CF out of spite!! > > Everyone on this list (with a few exceptions) does NOT have all the > pieces > of the puzzle. If you don't know the whole story, ask about the parts > you're missing of just stay quiet. > > As they say..assume makes and a$$ out of "u" and "me" ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:30 PM > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > > does anyone really think cf could go by the wayside? > > > > ..tony > > > > Tony Weeg > > Senior Web Developer > > Information System Design > > Navtrak, Inc. > > Fleet Management Solutions > > www.navtrak.net > > 410.548.2337 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:23 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. > Everyone > > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a > little > > over a year ago. > > > > The sad fact of the matter is that MS is more trustworthy than MM, > when > > it comes to secure futures for its developers. I mean, C# could be the > > biggest failure of all time, but MS would ride it out and C# > developers > > would have jobs for a long time to come. JSP is stable, because it's > not > > a company centric language. It's the CF developers who are up late at > > night wondering what the future holds. > > > > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat chance. > > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women and > > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) > > > > I'd just like to take this opportunity to encourage everyone to learn > a > > new language. Even if you don't use it extensively, you can at least > > secure peace-of-mind. > > > > Adam Wayne Lehman > > Web Systems Developer > > Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > > Distance Education Division > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:52 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > > The fact that I have seen the same ( or similar ) words said a bunch > > of > > times on this list makes me suspicious of them. > > > > At 03:32 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >that is correct. we are not cutting back. in fact, we will be > > dedicating > > >more resources to the coldfusion community. > > > > > >mike chambers > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:atyrone@;optonline.net] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:19 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: SOT: Sad Day > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why everyone jumps to the conclusion that > > > > MM is cutting > > > > back. Maybe Vernon left because he wanted to, who knows. As with > > the > > > > Contribute thread (I'm glad I made an OT sub-folder for > > > > cf-talk), people > > > > start assuming and making stuff up before they know the whole > story! > > > > > > > > On that note, I am glad that Vernon will be around as he's a > > > > good voice of > > > > reason to this list, at least in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm