You bring up something that I have debated in my head many times. How can anybody bring about better browser compliance so that it is easier to make good clean and accessible web pages.
I have been working on a project for the last 6 months, and I'm finding that I'm having to fall back on age old tricks and kludges to get the pages to work similar. I'm still using tables for layout because I can't get divisions to do what I need them to do. Which is basically multi-column/cell layout. For example, I wanted something fairly simple such as this. I needed two divisions at the bottom of a larger division so that I could have images with captions side by side. I never did figure out how to do this in such a way that it worked properly. | | |____________| || | | ||image|image| ||text | | |------------| | | -------------- I really like the idea of CSS and universally standard rendering of designs so that I can make clean pages, but I'm not sure we're there yet. In my darkest hours, I wonder if we are even moving that direction! Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource Sacramento, CA -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Simple html question Well, the 'big question' may not be that big to everybody :) Yes, it works in NS. Will it work in NS 4.x? I don't know. Personally, I don't worry about NS 4.x anymore. In my opinion, the number of users with NS 4.x is an acceptable level of loss. I can't spend resources on making sure a page will render properly for a browser that represents such a small % of my audience. To me, that time spent would be a greater loss. This might not be the most popular stance...but given the limited resources that I do have to work with, my feeling is that if my code is standards-compliant (by current standards), then I've done my job. Also (and I'm sure this is a very naive belief), I feel that the more we, as Web Developers, cater to each and every browser (if i do *this* then it will work correctly in that browser...and add a condition here to make sure it works in *that* browser), then we give the browser companies no motivation to ensure that their products will render code 'properly'. I know that digresses a bit from the original comment (dealing with older browsers)...but I'm curious to know if others feel this way...and if so, do you act on it? Or are you in a position where you don't have the option (or desire) to discount any certain browser(s)? As this isn't directly related to CF, hope it's not considered off-topic. Seems that since we all develop for the Web, it would be relevant. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Simple html question > and the big question...does it work in Nutscrape and if so...how far back? > version 4.x? ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre Mohamed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM > Subject: RE: Simple html question > > > > You can't get smaller than 1 pixel thickness (unless you consider > > dotted/dashed borders) > > > > <table style="border:1px solid black"> > > <tr> > > <td>hello world</td> > > </tr> > > </table> > > > > That's as thin as you can get (it definitely doesn't look the same the > > default border - though that depends on your browser) > > > > André > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John McCosker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 12 August 2003 17:36 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Simple html question > > > > Hi, > > Just a very simple question, > > is it possible to apply a style to a <table> to manipulate its border, > > border="1" is just a tab to thick for the fine layout our designer has > > done. > > > > I tried <table style="border:1px;border-color:#000000">, but this just > > gives > > the default border of one. > > > > Can't seem to find anything in the style editor shipped with CF studio > > 4.5, > > > > Respectfully, > > > > j. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
