David, The email for Dunne is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, you may have to wait quite a while for a reply as his inbox must be jam packed. Mark Urban --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "David Guyatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been away for a couple of weeks and have just returned...but am off > again today for awhile, but I will revert to any post on this topic when I > return. > > I've just seen the post that places my website www.deepblacklies.co.uk in > the category of a CIA fake website by one Fintan Dunne - who I don't know > and who doesn't know me. > > Doesn't this guy know that there are at least thirteen intelligence agencies > in the US? Why is it that all those websites listed only work for the CIA. > Don't any > of the other twelve intell agencies employ contractors to disseminate > dininfo. Sure they do. I'm thinking of one right now, in fact... > > Anyway. if anyone on this list has this Dunce's email address, can they > kindly send it to me offlist. When I'm back in September I'll make some > time to contact him and see how he stands up to some scrutiny and will then > publish our exchanges on this list. If my past experience is anything to go > on, he'll be a slippery as hell, refusing to support his assertion with any > credible argument (because he can't) and will either avoid answering direct > questions or, more likely, respond with old-fashioned deflection. > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:36 PM > Subject: [cia-drugs] holy smokes! is there anyone who isn't a cia front? > > > > fintan dunne's "J'ACCUSE" moment on the internets. I think Webfairy > > escaped the fickle finger of fintan. > > > > http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm > > > > The CIA's Internet Fakes > > by Fintan Dunne, Editor, BreakForNews.com 4th August, 2005 > > > > URLs: BreakForNews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm > > WagNews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cias-internet-fakes.html > > > > > > Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these > > websites are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been > > professionally manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these > > are promoting the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the > > covert controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully > > comprehensive listing of all the fake websites. > > > > The CIA Fakes presented by BreakForNews.com > > PsyOpNews.com and Wagnews.Blogspot.com > > > > airamericaradio.com > > albasrah.net > > aljazeera.net > > aljazeera.com > > almartinraw.com > > americanfreepress.net > > angieon911.com > > antiwar.com > > apfn.org > > arcticbeacon.com > > > > > > batr.org > > > > bellaciao.org > > bilderberg.org > > blackboxvoting.org > > bradblog.com > > buzzflash.com > > > > cloakanddagger.ca > > coasttocoastam.com > > conspiracyarchive.com > > conspiracyplanet.com > > commondreams.org > > cooperativeresearch.org > > counterpunch.org > > cryptome.org > > > > davidicke.com > > > > deepblacklies.co.uk > > democracynow.org > > dieoff.com > > > > earthfiles.com > > ellsberg.net > > > > fromthewilderness.com > > > > > > globalresearch.ca > > > > halfpasthuman.com > > > > infoclearinghouse.info > > > > infowars.com > > inn.globalfreepress.com > > internationalanswer.org > > > > jackblood.net > > jihadunspun.com > > jimmarrs.com > > jmccanneyscience.com > > johnbuchanan.org > > johnkaminski.com > > judicialwatch.org > > justacitizen.com > > justicefor911.org > > > > karlschwarz.com > > konformist.com > > kurtnimmo.com > > > > > > larouchepub.com > > > > legitgov.com > > letsroll911.org > > libertyforum.org > > libertythink.com > > lovearth.net > > > > madcowprod.com > > meria.net > > monbiot.com > > moveon.org > > mysteriesofthemind.com > > > > > > narconews.com > > newswithviews.com > > newtopiamagazine.com > > nomorefakenews.com > > > > occupationwatch.org > > oilempire.us > > onlinejournal.com > > > > peakoil.net > > plaguepuppy.net > > prisonplanet.com > > propagandamatrix.com > > > > > > questionsquestions.net > > > > ralphnader.com > > radioliberty.com > > rawstory.com > > rbnlive.com > > recombinomics.com > > rense.com > > reopen911.org > > rigorousintuition.blogspot > > riverbend.blogspot > > rumormillnews.com > > > > sanderhicks.com > > savethemales.ca > > septembereleventh.org > > skolnicksreport.com > > standdown.net > > stanley2002.org > > > > team8plus.org > > tomflocco.com > > thepowerhour.com > > thetruthseeker.co.uk > > truefacts.co.uk > > truthout.org > > tvnewslies.org > > > > unansweredquestions.org > > uruknet.info > > > > vialls.net > > > > votetoimpeach.org > > > > wanttoknow.info > > whatreallyhappened.com > > wingtv.net > > worldaffairsbrief.com > > > > xymphora.blogspot > > > > 911citizenswatch.org > > 911forthetruth.com > > 911truth.org > > 911truthradio.com > > > > > > The CIA Fakes presented by BreakForNews.com > > PsyOpNews.com and Wagnews.Blogspot.com > > > > Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these websites > > are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been professionally > > manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these are promoting > > the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the covert > > controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive > > listing of all the fake websites. > > > > > > For the last three years we have been quietly investigating the > > cover-up of the 9/11 attacks. Ours has been a wide-ranging inquiry > > which paid special attention to those who claim to be already > > exposing the truth. > > > > During this time we have interviewed many people with alternative > > views on who were the real perpetrators. All the while, we kept our > > own counsel. Much of the time we played it as if we were > > uncritically buying the lines being put out on various alternative > > media. > > > > We have examined a great deal of evidence and methodically traced > > the methods and networks used to mislead us all. Now we present the > > first of our findings. > > > > NO ROGUE GROUP > > > > We published our first investigative articles on the 9/11 attacks -- > > just 7 and 14 days after the event. We knew, as did many others, > > that the real planners were not 'Al-Qaida'. That's the easy part. > > The challenge was to actually determine -rather than merely guess: > > who did carry out the attacks? > > > > In uncovering those perpetrators, we felt that an investigation of > > the cover-up would be as much --if not more-- revealing than our > > examination of the attacks themselves. > > > > Our analysis of the cover-up shows it requires, and has used, the > > official intelligence resources of more that one state. One of the > > ways of deflecting investigators from this grim reality has been to > > spin the facts to allege that a 'rogue group' within government > > carried out the attacks. > > > > But we now state that the depth and multinational scope of the cover- > > up shows no mere rogue group was involved. The 9/11 attacks and > > cover-up have covert governmental support -deployed through an > > intelligence framework. > > > > What will be the most startling aspect of our investigation for many > > people is the vast scale of governmental control of the 9/11 > > movement and alternative investigators and media. From websites to > > commentators; from analysts to political personages, this has given > > the cover-up team unprecedented control of alternative media > > perceptions. > > > > In short, the government is running not only the 9/11 movement, but > > also controlling the 9/11 issue in the alternative media. It was > > relatively easy to do so, because they have controlled both > > mainstream and alternative media and politics increasingly over the > > last twenty years. This was just an extension of those operations. > > > > > > THE INTERNET POLICE > > > > Here's a quote from a recent article on the UK Guardian: > > "The Chinese government, employs an estimated 30,000 internet > > police, as part of a long-standing policy to control the web so that > > it can be used by businesses but not by political opponents." > > [Source] > > > > Think the ideology and practice of the USA would be any different? > > Of course not. Just well cloaked under a veneer of free expression. > > > > In the US, it's less a case of internet 'police' and more a question > > of Internet fake opposition, misdirection websites, front > > organizations, pseudo-activist groups and a host of professional > > blogging and web journalism liars, acting in concert to create an > > impenetrable fog. > > > > These people are all over the Internet They are all over the 9/11 > > issue; all over the 'stolen' election of 2004; behind the > > psychological operations designed to inspire fear of earth changes, > > of global warming, of the Super-State and the so-called New World > > Order; all over the landscape of anti-corporate, antifascist > > expression on the Internet. > > > > This army of information controllers is all over the 'free' > > information you are getting on the Internet. Time we opened our eyes > > to see them. It's not just the mainstream which is controlled. From > > the moment the Internet became prominent, a vast budget has been > > expended to control all the high-trafficked intersections on the > > information superhighway. > > > > > > THE FAKE 'EXPOSING' OF 9/11 > > > > Many of these sites/assets were put in place long before 9/11. A key > > goal was to ensure that if some truth must come out, it will be a > > truth designed and controlled by intelligence agencies --with agency > > assets in a position to ensure misdirection and damage limitation. > > > > To this end, an orgy of evidence [See Minority Report Part I] in the > > form of deliberately misleading 9/11 'clues', were designed into the > > 9/11 operation from the start --to give these assets prearranged > > talking points with which to fill their column inches and > > programming. This has served to confuse and confound. > > > > All this activity rose to a crescendo around the time the Kerry > > presidential bid hit it's planned implosion in the 'stolen' > > election. [The stealing of which was carefully managed in the > > controlled alternative media as a psychological operation against > > the left.] > > > > The hyping of the 9/11 issue up until the 'defeat' of Kerry was > > designed to max out activist interest in the issue, then bury it > > with the aid of general post-Kerry, left-wing political disillusion - > > against the backdrop of division in the 9/11 Movement itself. > > > > Also part of a similar confounding exercise were the subsequent 9/11 > > Movement 'flame wars', as different assets attacked each other to > > undermine their collective credibility and disillusion ordinary > > grassroots 9/11 truth activists. > > > > > > THE SMOKESCREEN > > > > A persistent theme of the disinformation spread by these assets is > > to portray the machinations of this elite group acting through the > > CIA/NSA/ETC. as if they originate from somewhere other than the US > > security/intelligence apparatus. > > > > Suspicion is directed instead onto the Israelis, the 'City of > > London', 'International Bankers', The Rockefellers, The > > Bildebergers, and most infamously, the ill-defined, so-called New > > World Order. Of course, some of these elements are complicit in > > certain events, but the aim is to downplay the U.S. establishment's > > guiding hand and the broad CFR/corporate support. > > > > Some may be surprised by the range and scope of the misinformation > > sites we have detailed, and may even be disconsolate to see the > > sheer scale of the social and political control which their > > virtually unlimited budget can achieve. > > > > All we can say is.... deal with it. We had to. It's better than us > > all flailing around in ignorance. And it explains why men and women > > of good heart have been getting nowhere. > > > > > > THE MEDIA AS PSYOP > > > > This level of deception has been going on since the 1950's and > > 1960's at an accelerating rate. Following the psywar against > > civilians induced by the nuclear arms race 'crisis,' the subsequent > > JFK killing was indeed an assassination, but it was also at heart an > > extension of these 1950's nuke-scare psychological operations. > > > > The killing of Kennedy was not necessary for political reasons - but > > it was a powerful tool for social control via psychological warfare. > > Kennedy was killed to deliberately drive the US population into a > > grief state which would hamper the development of political > > opposition. > > > > This type of PsyOps directed at the civilian population was, and > > still is the modus operandi. By now, it has produced a range of > > operations as varied as AIDS, SARS, 9/11 and the G8/Live8 London > > bombing. > > > > > > SUMMARY > > > > Given the number of assets deployed in support of the 9/11 > > operation, and the operational requirements of the 9/11 attacks > > themselves, their origin is now clear. 9/11 was not carried out by > > some 'rogue group,' nor was it a fully official US Government- > > sanctioned operation. > > > > But it was orchestrated by the highest levels of the US Military and > > military-industrial complex; on behalf of the national and > > international politicians, corporates, and moneyed interests. It > > had, and still has the full support of the US Military/intelligence > > apparatus -who control much of the alternative media and the 9/11 > > movement. > > > > More: Audio Show on this theme soon on BreakForNews.com > > > > Also: Part 1: 9/11 Minority Report 'An Orgy Of Evidence' > > Why the 9/11 Movement was created and fostered > > by the very people who carried out the attacks... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > > > OM > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.7.7 - Release Date: 16/06/05 > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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