Salaam All, Regarding the challenges of creating downloadable software for the entire project or even software to produce it in a book format for printing, I would say that it seems money (to hire programmers) is the limiting factor, the fact that the project is still not at a stable/release candidate stage is merely a consideration. It is an issue of code and packaging. It should be possible for a programmer to create software to do this.
Therefore, why not create a paypal account and ask us users to donate until the needed money to hire professional coders is collected for this task. If we want this software so bad, lets prove this with cash! Salaam, Marwan We have not instructed the (Prophet) in Poetry, nor is it meet for him: this is no less than a Message and a Qur'an making things clear:(36:69) ________________________________ From: Eric Atwell <csc...@leeds.ac.uk> To: Kais Dukes <dukes.k...@googlemail.com> Cc: Quranic Arabic Corpus discussion <comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk> Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 14:18:05 Subject: Re: Advice Required - Printed Version of the Quranic Arabic Corpus for distribution kais, I think this needs some careful thought ot present most of the info in much smaller space. The question then becomes: what is the info people really want, and what can be eliminated? part of the "information" in the online version is layout to make it readily accessible to casual users; arguably users of the printed form are not casual (or else they would not get the full printed version ) and can work with aa compressed representation - and may even prefer it if it means they can view longer texts on one page. For example, the full explanation of grammatical features takes up space but the same information is encoded in more compact tags; casual visitors won't understand the tags, but a repeat user might get used to this compact representation. This is generic, next step is to think about how exactly this applies to tagged quran... I'll have a think about this, but you will probably get good suggestions from others before me! eric On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Kais Dukes wrote: > Hello comp-quran members, > > I am writing to you all, to get some advice on a printed version of > the Quranic Arabic Corpus. We have been receiving a lot of requests > lately for something that users can download for offline use. Because > I beleive that the accuracy of the grammar is getting quite > reasonable, I am now considering this. In any case, we can always > update what we produce as the grammar improves. > > What I had in mind, was a set of PDF files that could be downloaded. > For example, perhaps 30 PDFs (1 per juz of the Quran, see: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juz'). My question is - I would be keen > to find out from members of the mailing list if they think that this > is a good idea? And if so, what would the best format be? I was > thinking of starting with the word-by-word grammar (not the syntactic > treebank). Perhaps starting with the information here: > > http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp > > The problem is that if we displayed those images at the same > resolution, with the same information, that comes out to about 7 > Quranic words per printed A4 page. Given that there are 77,430 Arabic > words in the Quran (according to our counting of whitespace) that > would give 11,061 pages in total - or 368 pages per juz (i.e. 368 > pages for each of the 30 PDF files). That doesn't sound very > reasonable to me. If we shrink the images and text by 50% that would > give about 5,530 pages in total. Do you think that perhaps we should > just display part-of-speech tags to save space? Or perhaps Quranic > researchers and students perfer the whole grammar written out in > textual form? > > I'm open to any suggestions on how to best display this information in > printed form for a set of PDFs. Any suggestions are more than welcome. > Feel free to reply directly to the mailing list, just hit "reply all": > > comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Kind Regards, > > -- Kais Dukes > > Language Research Group > School of Computing > University of Leeds > > http://corpus.quran.com - The Quranic Arabic Corpus > comp-quran@comp.leeds.ac.uk - Computional Quranic Arabic discussion list > -- Eric Atwell, Senior Lecturer, Language research group, School of Computing, Faculty of Engineering, UNIVERSITY OF LEEDS, Leeds LS2 9JT, England TEL: 0113-3435430 FAX: 0113-3435468 WWW/email: google Eric Atwell
