gotta say, that's a pretty sizeable seki to show up in a real game. s.
2012/8/15 Michael Williams <michaelwilliam...@gmail.com> > First time using this. Not sure how long the link will live. > > http://eidogo.com/#sk815dh > > Go to the end of the game. It unfortunate that it is so small, ugly > and that you can't link directly to a certain move. It seems we are > in need of a good web SGF viewer. > > > > 2012/8/15 Nick Wedd <n...@maproom.co.uk>: > > Yesterday, a KGS game between Blubbel 3d and AyaBot4 2k, SGF file > > below, ended with an unusual kind of seki. AyaBot4 marked its > > opponent's stones in the seki as dead, and was eventually booted > > by an admin for mis-marking stones (as a way of getting the game > > to end). As all eleven AyaBots use the same IP address, they all > > got booted - and an hour later, all simultaneously tried to log in again. > > > > I mention this, both to explain to Hiroshi what happened to his > > bots, and because it is an interesting seki, of I type I had never > > seen before. > > > > Nick > > > > > > (;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] > > RU[Chinese]SZ[19]HA[5]KM[0.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi] > > PW[Blubbel]PB[AyaBot4]WR[3d]BR[2k]DT[2012-08-14]PC[The KGS Go Server at > > http://www.gokgs.com/]C[AyaBot4 [2k\]: GTP Engine for AyaBot4 (black): > Aya > > version 7.42e : If you pass, AyaMC will pass. When AyaMC does not, please > > remove all dead stones. > > ] > > ;B[dd]BL[599.599] > > ;B[pd]BL[599.278] > > ;B[jj]BL[598.935] > > ;B[dp]BL[598.654] > > ;B[pp]BL[598.306] > > ;W[qn]WL[599.421] > > ;B[np]BL[596.887] > > ;W[qk]WL[598.258] > > ;B[ip]BL[595.687] > > ;W[lp]WL[596.32] > > ;B[kp]BL[594.405] > > ;W[lo]WL[594.002] > > ;B[lq]BL[593.188] > > ;W[mq]WL[592.372] > > ;B[mp]BL[592.019] > > ;W[kq]WL[590.811] > > ;B[lr]BL[591.069] > > ;W[jp]WL[585.719] > > ;B[ko]BL[589.498] > > ;W[jq]WL[576.457] > > ;B[jo]BL[588.011] > > ;W[mr]WL[573.518] > > ;B[ln]BL[586.867] > > ;W[mo]WL[572.06] > > ;B[mn]BL[585.458] > > ;W[no]WL[570.908] > > ;B[pn]BL[584.089] > > ;W[oo]WL[567.413] > > ;B[nn]BL[582.669] > > ;W[on]WL[560.432] > > ;B[om]BL[581.529] > > ;W[po]WL[558.796] > > ;B[kr]BL[580.282] > > ;W[jr]WL[555.794] > > ;B[pm]BL[578.814] > > ;W[qp]WL[548.661] > > ;B[qm]BL[577.793] > > ;W[qh]WL[544.178] > > ;B[qf]BL[576.209] > > ;W[io]WL[542.633] > > ;B[op]BL[574.787] > > ;W[qo]WL[540.749] > > ;B[rn]BL[573.321] > > ;W[ro]WL[538.87] > > ;B[ok]BL[572.134] > > ;W[in]WL[536.543] > > ;B[jm]BL[570.967] > > ;W[im]WL[534.421] > > ;B[il]BL[569.256] > > ;W[jl]WL[531.868] > > ;B[kl]BL[568.191] > > ;W[jn]WL[530.255] > > ;B[kn]BL[566.682] > > ;W[km]WL[529.03] > > ;B[ll]BL[565.35] > > ;W[oh]WL[521.982] > > ;B[nh]BL[563.782] > > ;W[og]WL[517.447] > > ;B[oi]BL[562.486] > > ;W[ng]WL[515.359] > > ;B[mg]BL[560.699] > > ;W[ni]WL[492.114] > > ;B[mh]BL[559.487] > > ;W[oj]WL[491.532] > > ;B[nj]BL[557.992] > > ;W[pi]WL[488.699] > > ;B[mi]BL[556.682] > > ;W[ik]WL[483.385] > > ;B[hl]BL[555.199] > > ;W[jk]WL[482.036] > > ;B[ij]BL[553.922] > > ;W[hk]WL[480.04] > > ;B[gl]BL[552.906] > > ;W[gk]WL[478.407] > > ;B[fk]BL[551.907] > > ;W[fl]WL[477.029] > > ;B[el]BL[550.55] > > ;W[fm]WL[475.577] > > ;B[em]BL[549.052] > > ;W[ek]WL[471.261] > > ;B[dk]BL[547.847] > > ;W[fj]WL[469.645] > > ;B[dj]BL[546.643] > > ;W[dq]WL[460.631] > > ;B[cq]BL[545.725] > > ;W[eq]WL[459.109] > > ;B[ep]BL[544.085] > > ;W[cr]WL[457.3] > > ;B[fp]BL[542.883] > > ;W[bq]WL[455.966] > > ;B[cp]BL[541.802] > > ;W[bp]WL[454.973] > > ;B[bo]BL[540.752] > > ;W[gr]WL[452.575] > > ;B[fn]BL[539.465] > > ;W[gn]WL[448.989] > > ;B[hp]BL[537.808] > > ;W[cf]WL[440.015] > > ;B[fc]BL[536.774] > > ;W[bd]WL[436.824] > > ;B[cc]BL[535.065] > > ;W[ci]WL[435.404] > > ;B[di]BL[534.013] > > ;W[bj]WL[432.975] > > ;B[gi]BL[532.818] > > ;W[fi]WL[416.985] > > ;B[fh]BL[531.688] > > ;W[gh]WL[416.032] > > ;B[hi]BL[530.258] > > ;W[eh]WL[415.031] > > ;B[fg]BL[529.417] > > ;W[ei]WL[414.198] > > ;B[dh]BL[528.432] > > ;W[eg]WL[412.854] > > ;B[gg]BL[527.023] > > ;W[ef]WL[409.783] > > ;B[cg]BL[525.867] > > ;W[bg]WL[408.034] > > ;B[bf]BL[524.529] > > ;W[bh]WL[403.186] > > ;B[ce]BL[522.728] > > ;W[df]WL[401.938] > > ;B[be]BL[521.808] > > ;W[cl]WL[398.665] > > ;B[dl]BL[520.422] > > ;W[cm]WL[396.907] > > ;B[dn]BL[519.207] > > ;W[fo]WL[395.097] > > ;B[en]BL[517.69] > > ;W[go]WL[393.291] > > ;B[br]BL[516.515] > > ;W[ar]WL[390.882] > > ;B[dr]BL[515.561] > > ;W[bs]WL[389.785] > > ;B[fq]BL[514.28] > > ;W[er]WL[388.674] > > ;B[fr]BL[513.124] > > ;W[ds]WL[387.87] > > ;B[cn]BL[511.635] > > ;W[gf]WL[375.574] > > ;B[bm]BL[510.575] > > ;W[bl]WL[373.001] > > ;B[am]BL[509.227] > > ;W[ai]WL[370.334] > > ;B[ap]BL[508.188] > > ;W[hg]WL[366.581] > > ;B[hh]BL[507.345] > > ;W[ff]WL[365.669] > > ;B[gh]BL[506.196] > > ;W[hf]WL[364.546] > > ;B[jh]BL[505.012] > > ;W[nc]WL[360.721] > > ;B[nd]BL[503.949] > > ;W[pc]WL[357.991] > > ;B[qc]BL[502.79] > > ;W[od]WL[355.262] > > ;B[oe]BL[501.996] > > ;W[oc]WL[354.415] > > ;B[md]BL[500.741] > > ;W[qd]WL[352.886] > > ;B[pe]BL[499.497] > > ;W[qb]WL[349.04] > > ;B[rc]BL[498.683] > > ;W[rb]WL[348.013] > > ;B[rd]BL[498.045] > > ;W[mc]WL[346.436] > > ;B[lc]BL[496.798] > > ;W[lb]WL[342.547] > > ;B[kc]BL[495.94] > > ;W[kb]WL[341.515] > > ;B[jc]BL[494.859] > > ;W[jb]WL[340.477] > > ;B[hc]BL[493.773] > > ;W[ic]WL[339.257] > > ;B[id]BL[492.944] > > ;W[ib]WL[338.293] > > ;B[jf]BL[491.682] > > ;W[hb]WL[335.898] > > ;B[gc]BL[490.451] > > ;W[gp]WL[332.161] > > ;B[gq]BL[489.594] > > ;W[ho]WL[328.497] > > ;B[hq]BL[488.663] > > ;W[ed]WL[318.979] > > ;B[hm]BL[487.378] > > ;W[ec]WL[311.079] > > ;B[fd]BL[486.128] > > ;W[db]WL[306.977] > > ;B[ee]BL[484.995] > > ;W[de]WL[304.243] > > ;B[cd]BL[483.928] > > ;W[fe]WL[301.373] > > ;B[cb]BL[482.932] > > ;W[fb]WL[300.273] > > ;B[pj]BL[482.07] > > ;W[oi]WL[289.406] > > ;B[pk]BL[481.069] > > ;W[qj]WL[287.968] > > ;B[rl]BL[480.173] > > ;W[rg]WL[283.271] > > ;B[ri]BL[479.029] > > ;W[rk]WL[275.974] > > ;B[pg]BL[477.947] > > ;W[rf]WL[270.285] > > ;B[re]BL[477.137] > > ;W[ne]WL[266.608] > > ;B[si]BL[476.159] > > ;W[of]WL[262.968] > > ;B[qi]BL[474.813] > > ;W[pf]WL[249.576] > > ;B[qe]BL[473.974] > > ;W[qg]WL[247.622] > > ;B[sf]BL[472.933] > > ;W[se]WL[239.677] > > ;B[sd]BL[471.819] > > ;W[sh]WL[236.271] > > ;B[rh]BL[470.766] > > ;W[sj]WL[230.812] > > ;B[sg]BL[469.929] > > ;W[ph]WL[229.406] > > ;B[ql]BL[469.325] > > ;W[mf]WL[218.345] > > ;B[ld]BL[468.416] > > ;W[mj]WL[216.358] > > ;B[nk]BL[467.321] > > ;W[kf]WL[215.548] > > ;B[kg]BL[466.438] > > ;W[lg]WL[203.023] > > ;B[lh]BL[465.742] > > ;W[lf]WL[199.749] > > ;B[je]BL[464.829] > > ;W[ki]WL[195.301] > > ;B[kh]BL[463.915] > > ;W[bb]WL[187.03] > > ;B[ba]BL[462.807] > > ;W[hr]WL[180.697] > > ;B[ir]BL[461.859] > > ;W[ks]WL[175.853] > > ;B[is]BL[460.556] > > ;W[kk]WL[170.667] > > ;B[lj]BL[459.258] > > ;W[kj]WL[167.172] > > ;B[ig]BL[458.371] > > ;W[sn]WL[161.129] > > ;B[sl]BL[457.498] > > ;W[da]WL[141.864] > > ;B[ca]BL[456.265] > > ;W[hd]WL[138.08] > > ;B[he]BL[455.64] > > ;W[ge]WL[134.377] > > ;B[gd]BL[455.014] > > ;W[gb]WL[133.418] > > ;B[hd]BL[454.396] > > ;W[if]WL[132.188] > > ;B[iq]BL[453.561] > > ;W[ls]WL[128.83] > > ;B[lk]BL[452.66] > > ;W[ji]WL[122.634] > > ;B[ii]BL[452.007] > > ;W[jd]WL[113.621] > > ;B[ie]BL[450.954] > > ;W[li]WL[107.351] > > ;B[ih]BL[450.032] > > ;W[ke]WL[100.091] > > ;B[kd]BL[449.426] > > ;W[lm]WL[94.731] > > ;B[nm]BL[448.706] > > ;W[ml]WL[92.034] > > ;B[mk]BL[448.065] > > ;W[mm]WL[90.273] > > ;B[fs]BL[447.205] > > ;W[es]WL[87.396] > > ;B[rm]BL[446.128] > > ;W[nl]WL[82.344] > > ;B[sb]BL[445.355] > > ;W[ol]WL[80.245] > > ;B[ag]BL[444.26] > > ;W[ra]WL[75.323] > > ;B[ch]BL[443.3] > > ;W[cj]WL[72.378] > > ;B[al]BL[442.403] > > ;W[ak]WL[70.849] > > ;B[ck]BL[441.264] > > ;W[bk]WL[69.86] > > ;B[dc]BL[440.587] > > ;W[ah]WL[67.088] > > ;B[ae]BL[439.879] > > ;W[af]WL[60.155] > > ;B[bc]BL[439.062] > > ;W[eo]WL[52.911] > > ;B[do]BL[438.337] > > ;W[ej]WL[45.856] > > ;B[gj]BL[437.658] > > ;W[pb]WL[38.279] > > ;B[dm]BL[436.922] > > ;W[ag]WL[32.972] > > ;B[dg]BL[436.278] > > ;W[aq]WL[30.263] > > ;B[ao]BL[435.619] > > ;W[js]WL[29.115] > > ;B[ab]BL[434.626] > > ;W[sa]WL[27.09] > > ;B[sc]BL[433.797] > > ;W[so]WL[23.959] > > ;B[sm]BL[432.924] > > ;W[jm]WL[17.358] > > ;B[pl]BL[432.229] > > ;W[hj]WL[3.861] > > ;B[lq]BL[431.429] > > ;W[lr]WL[1.668] > > ;B[qq]BL[430.674] > > ;W[rq]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[sp]BL[429.788] > > ;W[qr]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[nr]BL[428.871] > > ;W[pq]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[nq]BL[428.1] > > (;W[me]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ac]BL[427.303] > > ;W[nf]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[gs]BL[426.632] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[se]BL[425.863] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[jd]BL[425.075] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[mj]BL[424.25] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[jg]BL[423.532] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[sh]BL[422.716] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[hs]BL[421.857] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ad]BL[421.223] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[aa]BL[420.329] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[bn]BL[419.603] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ps]BL[418.821] > > ;W[qs]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[hr]BL[418.008] > > ;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[mb]BL[417.115] > > ;W[nb]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[oa]BL[416.353] > > ;W[ma]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[eb]BL[415.73] > > ;W[ea]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ga]BL[414.872] > > ;W[fa]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[sr]BL[414.112] > > ;W[sq]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[rs]BL[413.454] > > ;W[rr]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[pr]BL[412.687] > > ;W[or]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ns]BL[412.117] > > ;W[os]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ms]BL[411.561] > > ;W[oq]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[np]BL[410.873] > > ;W[ss]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[nr]BL[410.247] > > ;W[nq]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[op]BL[409.601] > > ;W[ns]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ka]BL[408.981] > > ;W[ja]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ha]BL[408.452] > > ;W[ia]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[na]BL[407.777] > > ;W[pa]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[gm]BL[407.053] > > ;W[hn]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[hl]BL[406.531] > > ;W[gl]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[hm]BL[405.876] > > ;W[gm]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[mp]BL[405.157] > > ;W[pp]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[np]BL[404.5] > > ;W[op]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[ga]BL[403.96] > > ;W[ha]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[403.958] > > (;W[ob]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[oa]BL[403.469] > > ;W[na]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[403.468] > > (;W[rp]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[pr]BL[402.879] > > ;W[ps]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[402.877] > > ;W[mp]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[402.876] > > ;W[la]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[402.876] > > ;W[il]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[hl]BL[400.542] > > ;W[hm]WL[30]OW[5] > > ;B[]BL[400.541] > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][oa][qa][eb][mb][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][np][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][rs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][co][gr]) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][oa][qa][eb][mb][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][np][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][rs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][co][gr]) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][oa][qa][eb][mb][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][np][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][rs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][co][gr]) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][oa][qa][eb][mb][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][np][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][rs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][co][gr]) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][oa][qa][eb][mb][sb][fc][gc][hc][jc][kc][lc][qc][rc][sc][fd][gd][hd][id][jd][kd][ld][md][nd][pd][qd][rd][sd][ee][he][ie][je][ke][le][me][ne][oe][pe][qe][re][se][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][qf][rf][sf][fg][gg][ig][jg][kg][lg][mg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][fh][gh][hh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][bi][gi][hi][ii][mi][ni][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][aj][gj][ij][jj][lj][mj][nj][oj][pj][qj][rj][sj][fk][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][qk][rk][sk][hl][kl][ll][pl][ql][rl][sl][nm][om][pm][qm][rm][sm][kn][ln][mn][nn][pn][rn][jo][ko][kp][np][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][rs]TB[bb][bd][an][co][gr]C[AyaBot4 > > [2k\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. > To > > solve this problem, you can press "undo", play until all dead stones are > > removed from the board, then score again. > > ])) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][la][oa][qa][eb][mb][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][il][hm][br][dr][as][cs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][on][qn][sn][co][lo][mo][no][oo][po][qo][ro][so][jp][lp][mp][op][pp][qp][rp][jq][kq][lq][mq][nq][oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][gr][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[AyaBot4 > > [2k\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are dead. > To > > solve this problem, you can press "undo", play until all dead stones are > > removed from the board, then score again. > > Blubbel [3d\]: SEKI > > ])) > > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[ga][ka][la][na][oa][qa][eb][mb][ob][ee][bi][aj][fk][hl][il][hm][mp][np][rp][sp][lq][qq][br][dr][kr][nr][pr][sr][as][cs][ms][ps][rs]TB[bb][bd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][ni][oi][pi][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][co][gr]C[Blubbel > > [3d\]: why doesn't it see the seki? > > Blubbel [3d\]: fuck... > > AyaBot4 [2k\]: You and the engine seem to disagree about which stones are > > dead. To solve this problem, you can press "undo", play until all dead > > stones are removed from the board, then score again. > > ])) > > (;W[]WL[30]OW[5] > > > ;B[]BL[428.099]TW[ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][eb][mb][nb][ob][ee][bi][aj][fk][gl][hl][il][gm][hm][hn][mp][np][op][pp][rp][sp][lq][nq][oq][qq][sq][br][dr][kr][nr][or][pr][rr][sr][as][cs][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]TB[aa][bb][ac][ad][bd][jd][qd][ke][le][me][ne][se][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][jg][lg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][oh][ph][qh][sh][ni][oi][pi][mj][oj][qj][rj][sj][qk][rk][sk][an][bn][co][gr][hr][gs][hs])) > > > > -- > > Nick Wedd > > n...@maproom.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > > Computer-go mailing list > > Computer-go@dvandva.org > > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@dvandva.org > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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