On 5 April 2012 18:06, Marsh Ray <ma...@extendedsubset.com> wrote:

> On 04/05/2012 04:12 AM, Ralf-Philipp Weinmann wrote:
>
>>
>> Do you have statistics on that? I remember newer Microsoft and Apple
>> operating systems supporting L2Sec quite well. And then there are the
>> Cisco abominanations of IPSec that are quite common. But maybe not as
>> common as SSL VPNs. And let's not forget OpenVPN for the geek
>> faction. Where did you get the data that PPTP still is "one of the
>> most commonly-used VPN protocols".
>>
>
> Honestly, it's been years since I messed with VPNs and I have not done
> methodical research. I suspect VPN industry studies are likely to to be
> skewed by selection bias (IT departments who are likely to spend spend
> money on a real VPN).
>

There's two reasons I haven't commented on this (despite it being good
work):

i. I'm not familiar enough with PPTP, and always avoided it like the plague
anyway (and that was 10 years ago).  Does dial-up not still generally use
MS-CHAPv2?

ii. There's only been once I've seen a company use PPTP for a VPN, and I
responded as any self-respecting sys-admin would... I laughed, took the
piss a bit, then fixed it.  Anything else I've seen has been Cisco (IPSec
or SSL afaik), Checkpoint (IPSec?), more bog-standard IPSec setups and
OpenVPN.  For that matter, I've seen companies use the sshd socks proxy as
a "VPN".
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