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At 01:45 PM 11/20/98 -0600, you wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>How do you reconcile your interpretation of the tenth commandment ("Go to
>hell") with Jesus's teaching:
>
>on love:"You shall love your neighbor as yourself"? Matthew 22:39.
>
>on the accumulation of wealth: "Truly, I tell you, it will be hard for a
>rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier
>for a camel to go through the eye of aneedle than for someone who is rich
>to enter the kingdom of God." Matthew 19:23-24.
>
>on PAYING TAXES: "Give therefore to the emperor the things that are the
>emperor's" Matthew 22:21.
>
>on capital: "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth
>and rust consume and where thieves break in  and steal; but store up for
>yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and
>where thieves do not break in and steal.  For where your treasure is,
>there your heart will be also" Matthew 19
>
>on judging others: "Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but
>do not notice the log in your own eye?" Matthew 7
>
>on market values: "You cannot serve God and wealth"
>                                    Matthew 24
>
>on market exchange values:
>             "and if anyone wants to sue you and take your
>coat, give your cloak as well; and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go
>also the second mile.  Give to everyone who begs from you, and do not
>refuse anyone who wants to borrow from you" Matthew 38
>
>on the disadvantaged: "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite
>your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, in case
>they may invite you in return, and you would be repaid. But when you give
>a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame and the blind."
> Luke 14:12
>
>on greed and egoism: (advice to the rich man) "Sell all that you own and
>distribute the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.."
>Luke 18:
>
> excerpts from The Holy Bible. New Revised Standard Version
> New York: American Bible Society, 1989
>
>
>On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Barb Witt wrote:
>
>>  -Caveat Lector-
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>> At 09:19 PM 11/19/98 -0600, Linda Minor wrote:
>> > -Caveat Lector-
>> >
>> >You answered my question.  You are simply obtuse--or simple and obtuse.
>> >Regardless, I have better things to do with my valuable time than to waste
>> >it on the likes of you.
>> >Have a good day.
>> >
>>
>> Wow! This must be another example of the "scholarly research" I was told to
>> emulate!  The following quote from the book "Eat The Rich" was surely
>> written with you in mind:
>>
>> "Fairness is a good thing in marriage and at the day-care center. It's a
nice
>> little domestic virtue. But a liking for fairness is not that noble a
>> sentiment. Fairness doesn't rank with charity, love, duty, or
self-sacrifice.
>> And there's always a tinge of self-seeking in making sure that things are
>> fair. Don't you go trying to get one up on me.
>>
>> As a foundation for a political system, fairness may be no virtue at
all. The
>> Old Testament is clear on this point. The Bible might seem an odd place
to be
>> doing economic research, especially by someone who goes to church about
once a
>> year, and only then because that's when my wife says the Easter Bunny
comes.
>> However, I have been thinking--in socioeconomic terms--about the Tenth
>> Commandment.
>>
>> The first nine Commandments concern theological principles and social law:
>> Thou shalt not make graven images, steal, kill, etc. Fair enough. But then
>> there's the Tenth Commandment: "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house,
>> thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his
>> maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's."
>>
>> Here are God's basic rules about how we should live, a very brief list of
>> sacred obligations and solemn moral precepts, and right at the end of it
is,
>> "Don't envy your buddy's cow."
>>
>> What is that doing in there? Why would God, with just ten things to tell
>> Moses, choose, as one of them, jealousy about the livestock next door? And
>> yet, think about how important to the well-being of a community this
>> Commandment is. If you want a donkey, if you want a pot roast, if you
want a
>> cleaning lady, don't bitch about what the people across the street have. Go
>> get your own.
>>
>> The Tenth Commandment sends a message to socialists, to egalitarians, to
>> people obsessed with fairness, to American presidential candidates in
the year
>> 2000--to everyone who believes that wealth should be redistributed. And the
>> message is clear and concise: Go to hell."
>>
>>
>> Barb
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: M. A. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 8:54 PM
>> >Subject: [CTRL] Supreme Court noise
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Caveat Lector-
>> >>
>> >>Linda Minor wrote:
>> >>     The point is:  You requested the specific language in the
>> >>     U.S. Constitution which permits your wages to be taxed,
>> >>     with the money used for social welfare purposes.
>> >>MJ:
>> >>Yes, I still await such identification -- have you located such?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Linda Minor wrote:
>> >>     Our constitution gave the Supreme Court the power of judicial
>> >>     review to interpret the language of the constitution.
>> >>MJ:
>> >>Can you cite the relevant information for such a power?  THIS is
>> >>not there either ...  Justice Marshall USURPED this power in
>> >>Marbury v. Madison when he stated among other things:
>> >>
>> >>        It is emphatically the province and duty of the Judicial
>> >>        Department to say what the law is.
>> >>
>> >>If the Judicial department is going to SAY what the law is, why have
>> >>a Constitution?  How does anyone know WHAT the standard might be?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Linda Minor wrote:
>> >>   The Supreme Court specifically stated that your wages can be
>> >>   taxed for certain purposes.  Were you lying when you asked
>> >>   for the information, or are you just too obtuse to understand
>> >>   English?
>> >>MJ:
>> >>With any and all due respect, the Supreme Court is NOT the
>> >>Constitution -- or are you too obtuse to understand basic concepts?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Linda Minor wrote:
>> >>     How do you earn your wages, BTW?  I can't imagine anyone
>> >>     hiring you for any purpose.  Tell us what it is that you
>> >>     do that is so valuable?
>> >>MJ:
>> >>Of what relevance does 'my employment' or lack thereof have to
>> >>do with this discussion?  Perhaps you have been confused by
>> >>today's House proceedings.  :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Regard$
>> >>--MJ
>> >>
>> >>Is confidence or discretion, or is STRICT LIMIT, the principle
>> >>of our Constitution? --Thomas Jefferson to J. Morse, 1822.
>> >>
>> >>On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the
>> >>time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit
>> >>manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning
>> >>may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform
>> >>to the probable one in which it was passed.
>> >> --Thomas Jefferson to W. Johnson, 1823
>> >>
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