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From: nurev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Scott Brown wrote:
> > Robert Tatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > At the risk of being massively flamed, I am compelled by a sense of
> > > intellectual honesty to propose that the time has come to repeal the
> > > Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
> >
> > Personally, I feel it would be a waste of my time to devote the time
> > and energy that is necessary to properly convey how your proposal
> > dissgusts me. So what I will say is this, I hope that you remember
> > your decision if we are deprived of our right to defend ourselves
> > against tyranny. In the remaining part of this year, and the next
> > 3 or 4, you will see the error of this ignorance.
>
> Disgusting or not you'll have to deal with it. Many of us are sick and
> tired of your mantra. We would like to get guns out of daily life and
> see what happens. If the death rate drops ( which it will ) then that's
> the way it will stay. No guns.
Rather than chant mantras from any side of the question, it may be
useful to examine the basis and reality of the current situation.
The 2nd Amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being neces-
sary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to
keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." [Some [people quibble
over the existence of certain commas in there.] What does it mean?
[Note that the Founders purposely worded this Amendment so that we'd
have something to argue over. The clever bastards...]
As stated, the "right to bear arms" is about STATE security, not
individual self-protection. Arguments about guns being necessary
for self-protection are thus extra-constitutional. The necessity
of a WELL-REGULATED militia is stated; arguments that gun control
is unconstitutional are thus bogus. The Founders did not specify
what they considered to be "arms", usable weapons. Did they mean
personal firearms, military weapons, or any combative materials?
So we get down to the crux: Are personal firearms or any other
weaponry, now, today, necessary for State security? To evaluate
that question, we need to ask other questions: Just what *are*
the threats to State security? Are these threats defensible by
a Militia armed with personal firearms or other weaponry? Who ya
gonna fight, and with what?
So, what are the real threats? Terrorists with explosives or NBC
[Nuclear/Biological/Chemical] weapons; enemy states employing same,
delivered by strategic or tactical means; crippling of the power,
transport and/or information infrastructures via cyberwar; propa-
ganda, disinformation, "memes"; armed invasion of the continental
US [CONUS]; attack from outer space by advanced extraterrestrials.
We might not be able to do much against ETs with ANY weaponry.
An armed invasion of CONUS seems rather unlikely IMHO, although
I'm sure many would disagree with me. That leaves terrorists,
tactical/strategic NBC/X attacks, and infowar. Are any of these
threats defensible with personal firearms? Really?
Other arguments involve the use of personal firearms to ward off
domestic tyranny. But if a tyrant controls the most powerful
military force on Earth, will personal firearms matter? Really?
Again, the 2nd Amendment makes no provision for fighting tyranny,
so such arguments are also extra-constitutional.
I don't have any good answers, just a lot more questions. Bother.
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