From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Response to Mike Levine and Mike Novick I have e-mails and correspondence to document everything I say here. Forget hysterical. This is written notice of intent to sue the next person who defames me fraudulently by knowingly uttering or printing untrue statements about my background and experience. On Tuesday July 13, 1999 I was a scheduled guest on a WBAI show on Mind Control and MK-Ultra produced by Barbara Hartwell under the direction of Mike Levine. I was confirmed as a guest and told that I would be on for a two hour segment between 1-5 PM. I cleared my calender, notified some friends and supporters, cancelled appointments and sat by the phone. The call never came. Later that day I was told that I had been scrubbed from the program at the direction of Mike Levine who suggested to Hartwell that, while he liked my writing, he seriously questioned my law enforcement experience. That means that Mike Levine pulled me off a radio show. -------------- There is not one person alive, anywhere on this planet, there is not one piece of tape recorded or video taped material in existence anywhere which shows me saying that I was a 25 year veteran cop who caught and fought CIA as part of a job description. If Mike Levine can produce such a thing I will crawl on my hands and knees and beg forgiveness. But if he does not, right now, then perhaps he should beg mine. I have been fighting CIA publicly for 21 years. That began after I was forced out of LAPD and nearly killed. I had no disciplinary actions pending and was earning the highest rating reports possible. Even in his own message here, Mike Levine posts information which is patently incorrect and easily checked by simply reading the documentation on my web page. My story, with ample support documentation, has been on the web site at www.copvcia.com since April of 1998. It has certainly been available to Mike Levine for a lot longer than that. If Celerino Castillo accepts my law enforcement credentials; if Peter Dale Scott accepts my law enforcement credentials; if Alfred McCoy accepts my law enforcement credentials; if the House and Senate Select Intelligence Committees accept my credentials; if UCLA accepts my credentials; if UC Berkeley accepts my credentials; if Maxine Waters accepts my credentials; and above all, if the Inspector General's Office of the Los Angeles Police Department and Deputy Chief Gregory Berg accept my credentials, then who the hell is Mike Levine to proclaim himself an ally and supporter while passing along unfounded rumors without asking me first. I have never uttered anything other than the truth which was that I worked for LAPD for a total of about 8 1/2 years total. Yet, while I carried a badge and a gun, I did witness, first-hand, materially, eyeball, first person, in the agonized and broken-hearted flesh, the CIA trafficking in drugs in New Orleans in the summer of 1977. No, I did not see the drugs per se, but I observed CIA personnel, to wit, my soon to be ex-fianc�e and other Agency personnel, arranging for narcotics (heroin) to be smuggled into the port of New Orleans by service boats using the aid of hard hat divers on oil rigs in the Gulf. I then reported it to my Department back in LA and found that I was reporting it to Intelligence officers who were working with CIA to protect the drugs. That is what almost got me killed. As an expert, Mike will tell you that if you are testifying to a drug conspiracy, it is great testimony to have a witness stating that he observed one of the conspirators arranging for narcotics to be picked up and delivered with full knowledge that it was contraband. I have better first hand knowledge than just about anybody out there, especially when it comes to CIA agents "proper" getting directly involved with drugs. More written proof than could possibly have been asked for has been provided to Paul Williams. But, since I wasn't on official assignment when I saw this in 1977, but on a hastily arranged vacation taken care of by a Captain, who later became Police Commissioner (Jesse Brewer), who knew I was being set up, I guess I didn't see it or that it is not relevant. That is Mike Levine's logic. The fact that I had worked two assignments in narcotics, not as a patrolman, and had given expert testimony twenty-seven times on drugs might just have helped me to know what the hell I was seeing in New Orleans. Nobody has to take my word for it, The Los Angeles Herald Examiner put it on the front page on Oct, 11 and Oct. 18, 1981, with a full page inside the front section each time. That was eighteen years ago! Anyone who wishes to read those stories, with all of the evidence produced by Herald Examiner correspondent Randall Sullivan can find the full text on my web page at www.copvcia.com. Again, semantically, though he knows it to be unfair, Mike Levine says I was never a detective because I hadn't yet achieved the rank yet. That is as if to say that I never worked detectives. As any cop knows, cops holding Police Officer III (the highest police officer)rank in LAPD often work as detectives. I worked detective assignments on loan in homicide, burglary and two extended times in narcotics. I worked plain clothes. I wrote search warrants. I conducted investigations. I ran informants. I approved bookings and I did detective work. I was being groomed to work for the CIA inside LAPD and I dealt with CIA agents in LAPD directly. First Hand. Eyeball to eyeball. Yet, by his own description Levine will not allow any of that evidence or discussion. The next time anybody has the chutzpah to say I didn't work Detectives they'll be looking down the barrel of a lawsuit. It's that simple. You just don't get to lie about people and get away with it. My narcotics Officer In Charge (OIC) John Odom and my other narc partners from Wilshire Division including Frank Kawai, Roy Neie, Roger Niles and Sam Bass (and a couple others) stand ready to produce affidavits saying I worked as a detective in narcotics with them. I have had enough of this bullshit and I am ready to sue. What's better is that all of them gave statements about my narcotics work with them to the Inspector General's staff and Internal Affairs at LAPD after I confronted John Deutch in 1996. The rating reports reflecting the assignments are still in my personnel package to this day. In fact I was so good at narcotics that I was specially chosen to attend a two week DEA narcotics enforcement school in Las Vegas in 1976. The DEA agents who ran the school - for detectives only as far as LAPD was concerned - were named Hugh Shanahan and Gil Mora. A diploma from that school, signed by DEA administrator Peter Bensinger and dated 23 April, 1976 hangs above my desk to this day. And if poor Mike was gullible and taken in by his "trusted sources" then he should have been a good enough detective to check it out with me before putting it out on the street. Also, what he does not allow, is my familial background or exposure to CIA connections before I started working for LAPD or while I was an intern being groomed in the Chief's office. It is irrelevant to him that my internship buddy and close friend from UCLA, Craig Fuller, went on to become Chief of Staff to Vice President George Bush. No CIA connection there fer sure! Or that my mother had been with NSA. Or that my father worked on CIA contracts for Martin Marietta. Or that relatives of his were career OSS and CIA. I am no wannabe. I was in two shootings and I earned 13 citations and four commendations. I've faced as much or more danger, heartache and sacrifice as any law enforcement guy alive on this issue. And if Mike Levine wants to apologize then I will accept it because we should be on the same side. But then, a lot of things "should" be and I never get tired of finding new ways to have my heart broken. Mike Ruppert www.copvcia.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Novick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mike Levine's Response to Michael Ruppert's claims of attack This message is addressed to Mike Ruppert, but as noted above, I am sending a copy to Mike Levine. Mike, another subscriber to the email list I do on CIA was concerned enough about the message from you that I posted, which mentioned problems that you felt you had been having with Mike Levine about his WBAI show, that he corresponded with Mike Levine about it. Below are Levine's replies to him, which he (Levine) is willing to post to the list. I was wondering, before this goes further, if you wanted to reply to Levine directly. It seems to me he (Levine) misunderstood your description of yourself, and perhaps you misunderstood the nature of the show he was trying to put together. This seems like a separate matter than any other struggles over Pacifica and what's been happening there. It seems to me that a satisfactory resolution might be quite possible based on clearer communication between the two of you, who have both contributed a lot on this issue. I would prefer not to post Levine's actual messages to the list, but I was hoping that by sending them to you it would facilitate a resolution. In general, I would rather not get into personalities on the list (or in the movement). Having worked with you in the L.A. !Crack the CIA! Coalition, my understanding from you has always been that your service as a law enforcement officer ended when you were forced out of LAPD, and that your investigations ever since have been of a private nature; also that your run-ins with CIA while with the LAPD were what led to your being forced off the department, and that your direct knowledge of CIA involvement in guns for drugs dealing preceeded the whole issue of cocaine and crack in south central. To my knowledge, you have never claimed otherwise. On the other hand, the show Levine was trying to put together was apparently specifically of people who -- while active duty law enforcement officers -- uncovered CIA involvement or were thwarted in their efforts by CIA involvement. In the context of such a show, it seems to me that the concrete part of your first-hand experience that applies would be discovering CIA drugs for guns dealing with the Kurds and the mafia back in the 70's. This is not to diminish the significance of the other investigations you have pursued independently since, such as the material about Carone, the recent disclosures by Fitts of the financial gains realized based on the destruction of south central by the drug plague, etc. But apparently that material is somewhat outside the scope of the particular show Levine is trying to put together. I am forwarding this message also to Mike Levine, in hopes that the two of you will be able to clear up the misunderstandings and come to a mutually satisfactory conclusion that will also thereby be beneficial to advancing the cause we are all struggling for of full disclosure and full accountability for crimes committed by our government, let the chips fall were they may. In solidarity, Michael Novick Forwarded messages from Mike Levine. I don't know if the three-dot ellipses are original to Levine's messages or represent material excised by the recipient who sent them to me.--MN >Subject: > Re: [WBAI Interview - Pacifica] > Date: > Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:38:19 EDT > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[Recipient chooses to remain anonymous] > >I appreciate your concern and I am going to give you a very, very >specific >answer. If you have any questions about the answer, don't hesitate. > >To be specific: I have supported Mike's journalistic efforts 100 >percent >agreeing with almost all his activities and statements as you describe >in >your letter, about Mike's journalistic positions on CIA and drugs....but >that >was not the kind of show I had in mind...and Mike does not put himself >forth >as a journalist.. > >I Never barred Mike from any show (I repeat) I have never barred Mike >from >any show, nor do I have the power to do so.. > > I Never offered him a chance to be on a show either, mainly because, >while >I support his journalistic efforts, I've been warned by others on the >inside >that his professional claims as to being a "25 year front line veteran >fighting the CIA crack cocaine epidemic, as an LAPD Detective" may >simply be >untrue... > >My own sources, now in active intelligence and law enforcement work, >warn >that there are a lot of people on the internet waving "false flags"--an >old >CIA technique for disinformation.. That is, they kind of lead a charge >using >false personal credentials, get a whole lot of credible people behind >them, >and then turn out to have questionable backgrounds, which automatically >sinks >the credibility of anyone's name associated with them who are the real >danger >to CIA's hidden past. > >Thus, While Mike did serve on the LAPD he only reached the level of >patrolman >(not detective) and, after only 9 years service, was off the job in >1979, >long before the crack epidemic even began...To some, this may not seem >as >important as it seems to people on the inside, whom--before they take a >step >to contact someone on the outside--must be certain of their >credibility...And >calling yourself a "25 year front line veteran, and a detective," who >personally "fought the CIA on the front lines," if in fact you are >not at >least that, is quite a big deal when it comes to credibility...among >those >on the inside... > >This leads me and the people on pacifica who value the credibility of >THE >EXPERT WITNESS show to a very specific problem with Mike's claims: > >I repeat: >so, while Mike's journalistic claims and his quotes and narrations of >others' experiences are all valid, as far as CIA being heavily involved >in >drug smuggling....they are no different than the claims of any of the >other >journalists, whom I have had on my show: Gary Webb (with whom I've done >shows and personal appearances), Jerry Meldon, Bob Parry (who first >outed >Ollie North in the news), Alex Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair >(Whiteout), >Martin Lee (many books and articles, Norman Soloman (many books and >articles)...and many, many others....also, Judge Walsh, Iran-contra >prosecutor, and many others of his legalistic ilk......But all are >introduced >as to their documented pasts > >If you look at the people from law enforcement whom I have featured and >will >continue to feature: Cele Castillo DEA, Ralph MCgeehee CIA, Bobby >Johnson 25 >yr NYPD Dectective, Tyrone Powers (FBI), Wesley Swearingen (FBI), rick >Horn >(DEA), Dennis Dayle (DEA)..and others...their backgrounds, records and >claims >are well known to me through varioius resources, or they would not have >been >on the show.... > >So, I gave Mike and others on the Internet a chance to be part of a >show, >using their own documented experiences as front-line officers figthing >CIA >influence in the drug war, and actually (from his list) have one man >with a >documented law enforcement past, scheduled for a show that I thought >would be >special, powerful, irrefutible...I mean imagine having a group of top >law >enforcement officers, used to testifying before juries, testifying on >one >radio show about their own first-hand experiences...I thought, and still >think, it would be great...I don't need Mike Ruppert talking about Chip >Tatum's experiences, I need Chip Tatum....There is a world of difference >in impact. >So when Mike started complaining about me "blocking" him, without simply >documenting his own experiences so that I can put him on the air...which >I am >still willing to do..... I turned it over to Paul Williams, a co >producer at >WBAI for him to try and get Mike to stop being, well...rather hysterical >(in >written form)...and just give us the materiel for the show...AGain: that >is a >series of real law enforcement people with first-hand provable >experience >figthing CIA in the drug war.. > >Paul told me that Mike claims he is mailing such proof...So there may >be no >problem at all,and Mike will be on a show....and I have removed myself >from >the decision making process...If Mike can prove his claims to Pacifica, >he is >on...End of Story. > >Best > >Mike Levine >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Subject: > Re: WBAI Interview - Pacifica followup > Date: > Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:52:05 EDT > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[Anonymous] >Thanks for your note. You are truly an intelligent observant man. I >had a >private meeting with Dan Sheehan, long before he went to trial. He >contacted >me when my book DEEP COVER came out, and we met at an apartment on the >east >side of NYC in the early Summer of 1990. > >I listened to his whole case and advised him to focus on the strength of >his >case, the bombing at La Penca; that he should be wary of all the other >stuff, >which, unless he could prove with solid documentation would destroy his >other >claims...He did have a strong case and, sadly, seems to have followed >the >False Flag, which. when it came to court, made his other solid claims >doubtful...Whatever the case, I was a strong supporter of Dan's and >appeared >on many of his panel's and televised shows, because I believed in his >case, >and, at least part of his claims were in fact very documented....Alas, >the >False Flag effect worked too, too well.. > >As far as I am concerned I have always supported Ruppert's journalistic >claims...Have never said a bad thing about him, unless you consider >asking >for documentation of his personal claims for a specific show a "bad" >thing.....If he can document his personal claims, which is necessary for >the >format of the show I had in mind, he will be on...I sincerely hope he >can, as >I like the guy... > >If he can't, that will speak for itself...I have absolutely no power in >Pacifica to block anyone from anything...(almost laughable).. > >Either way: as far as I am concerned the issue is resolved. > >If he cannot document his personal claims, I will still continue to >support >his journalistic efforts, but, cannot put him on the air in a series of >interviews that is intended for people with "documented, front-line >experience combatting CIA drug running" (Dennis Dayle, Cele Castillo, >Rick >Horn, etc).. the kind of experience that any intelligent listener cannot >ignore or discredit, because their testimony was used to put so many >Americans in jail for drugs... > >I simply do not want to take the chance of giving CIA or their media >protectors the chance to scoff at the show (as was done with >Christic)... > >Now I don't see anything terrible in that.. > >Once again: either way..as far as I am concerned the situation is >resolved... > >best > >Mike L > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. 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