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From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> There was one post that quoted both Aleshia and June and attributed it to
> me!  I began posting on this subject because I was tired of posters being
> shouted down.

No, you seek to control and censor the list along the lines of your own prejudices.


> You see, the list wa so much better when the exchange of
> information was free-flowing and people did not jump to conclusions and
> attack posters personally and liea bout what they said.

Then stop doing it.

BTW, I've been on this list for years, compared to your few weeks (at least under your 
current guise)...so you
are hardly the person to lecture about how much 'better' the list used to be...


> June posts about my
> "hew and cry" when in fact it is probably Aleisha's to whom she is
> referring.

One and the same.

And under your 'Amelia' guise you HAVE whined long and loud about homosexuals...


> Does every poster have to endorse and believe in every posts now?

No, but anyone sending an article to the list with which they don't agree should 
clearly label it as such.
Anyone who consistently sends articles to the list with which they don't agree and who 
does NOT clearly
mention that it is "FYI, not necessarily endorsed by sender" is just playing mind 
games with the list, and
obviously intent on a campaign to disrupt the list.


> If you post something positive about Cuba, will that mean you are a communist?

Of course it doesn't, but it DOES imply that the poster agrees with the country on 
whatever is being discussed
in the article.  If the person sending it does not, then they should clearly state 
that.

And if they don't clarify their stance, then they shouldn't take high umbrage when 
readers think that the
sender agrees with the sentiments within the article.


> But now that I have seen the
> manner in which my attempts to restore some semblance of civility and fair
> play have been met,

Ha!  More dissembling.  You seek to control and censor the list under the guise of 
your Miss Manners act.

BTW, I've been on this list for years, compared to your few weeks (at least under your 
current guise); so you
are hardly the one to pontificate about 'restoring' the list to anything...

But if you are sincere in your wish to 'restore some semblance of civility and fair 
play', then stop sending
your disinformation posts; those like you who stir the pot to see what boils should 
not complain when you get
burned in the process.


> I have nothing further to say to the list as a
> whole  on this worn out subject.--unless I am further attacked on list.

Then we can resign ourselves to the fact that you will continue to post your whining 
rants, as you feel that
any disagreement with you is a personal attack.

And it is interesting that you and your subs feel free to attack ME with aplomb at 
every opportunity, yet work
yourselves into a tizzy every time someone dares to point out the numerous instances 
of your mistakes and
hypocrisy.


> Just diagram the sentence,

Interesting that both you AND Aleisha are such grammarian gurus...


> Nate, and you will easily see it does NOT say what you claim.  Just as I did
> NOT say what June claimed.  Did you notice she then tried to start another
> controversy sex education?

What is controversial about sex education?  It is only controversial if YOU seek to 
make it so.

I was just responding to YOUR statement that sex should not be discussed with or 
around children.  I notice
you still have not answered the question.


> Don't you wonder why she posts so little except to attack
> the posts of others and keep the list in as much of an uproar as she
> possibly can?

If pointing out your mistakes and hyprocricy is keeping the list in 'an uproar', so be 
it...but again, if YOU
are sincere in your statement that you wish this list to maintain civility and fair 
play, then you yourself
should set the standard and stop playing mind games with the list...

Interesting, that when I HAVE sent articles to the list in the last week or so, you 
ignore them...


> So what exactly would you like done to Aleisha, an older woman from the past
> generation, stating her opinion?  Silence her?

Lord, yes!  You claim _I_ post so little, yet all the Aleisha subpersonality posts are 
innane rambling rants,
with absolutely NO documentation to substantiate the wild claims it makes.

And if you are going to say that it is okay for the Aleisha sub to post nothing but 
her personal opinions,
then why do you seek to silence ME in posting MY personal opinions?


> Amelia <not acting as moderator as we started this exchange before that
> announcement>

I thought that it was announced that you indeed were NOT going to be a moderator on 
this list after all.  Has
that changed?  Please spell out what your official role, if any, is on this list.


June

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