-Caveat Lector-
June,
I don't have the exact date, but I have been on this list for almost 4
years. Are you implying I have multiple personality disorder? I have
always and only posted under my own name. I have used one other address
akeyorkie@webtv some three years ago. This is a completely false
statement. Again, this is very telling about your own tactics.
Sex education is NOT about telling children your own sexual orientation and
experiences. the fact that you think it is downright scary. If you are
doing such a thing, it is sexual abuse and you should get help immediately.
Again, I am not Aleut. It is NOT required that a poster label an article as
to whether it contains theri personal beliefs or not. That is none of your
business unless the poster chooses to share that. As for Miss Manners,
well, your lack of civility speaks for itself.
My "official position" is that I am going to be on the lookout for newcomers
while Kris does his symposium and if you have a problem with that, you take
it up with Kris. I will help him in any way I can because I appreciate the
wealth of information he has posted and the fact that this list exists.
So once again you have posted complete misinformation about me. I think you
should apologize for this latest lie that I have only been on the list for a
few weeks. You do know what an apology is, don't you? But I now wonder if
you know the truth from a lie.
Amelia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:10 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Mind Games (was: NAZI POLICY TOWARD HOMOSEXUALS)
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > There was one post that quoted both Aleshia and June and attributed it
to
> > me! I began posting on this subject because I was tired of posters
being
> > shouted down.
>
> No, you seek to control and censor the list along the lines of your own
prejudices.
>
>
> > You see, the list wa so much better when the exchange of
> > information was free-flowing and people did not jump to conclusions and
> > attack posters personally and liea bout what they said.
>
> Then stop doing it.
>
> BTW, I've been on this list for years, compared to your few weeks (at
least under your current guise)...so you
> are hardly the person to lecture about how much 'better' the list used to
be...
>
>
> > June posts about my
> > "hew and cry" when in fact it is probably Aleisha's to whom she is
> > referring.
>
> One and the same.
>
> And under your 'Amelia' guise you HAVE whined long and loud about
homosexuals...
>
>
> > Does every poster have to endorse and believe in every posts now?
>
> No, but anyone sending an article to the list with which they don't agree
should clearly label it as such.
> Anyone who consistently sends articles to the list with which they don't
agree and who does NOT clearly
> mention that it is "FYI, not necessarily endorsed by sender" is just
playing mind games with the list, and
> obviously intent on a campaign to disrupt the list.
>
>
> > If you post something positive about Cuba, will that mean you are a
communist?
>
> Of course it doesn't, but it DOES imply that the poster agrees with the
country on whatever is being discussed
> in the article. If the person sending it does not, then they should
clearly state that.
>
> And if they don't clarify their stance, then they shouldn't take high
umbrage when readers think that the
> sender agrees with the sentiments within the article.
>
>
> > But now that I have seen the
> > manner in which my attempts to restore some semblance of civility and
fair
> > play have been met,
>
> Ha! More dissembling. You seek to control and censor the list under the
guise of your Miss Manners act.
>
> BTW, I've been on this list for years, compared to your few weeks (at
least under your current guise); so you
> are hardly the one to pontificate about 'restoring' the list to
anything...
>
> But if you are sincere in your wish to 'restore some semblance of civility
and fair play', then stop sending
> your disinformation posts; those like you who stir the pot to see what
boils should not complain when you get
> burned in the process.
>
>
> > I have nothing further to say to the list as a
> > whole on this worn out subject.--unless I am further attacked on list.
>
> Then we can resign ourselves to the fact that you will continue to post
your whining rants, as you feel that
> any disagreement with you is a personal attack.
>
> And it is interesting that you and your subs feel free to attack ME with
aplomb at every opportunity, yet work
> yourselves into a tizzy every time someone dares to point out the numerous
instances of your mistakes and
> hypocrisy.
>
>
> > Just diagram the sentence,
>
> Interesting that both you AND Aleisha are such grammarian gurus...
>
>
> > Nate, and you will easily see it does NOT say what you claim. Just as I
did
> > NOT say what June claimed. Did you notice she then tried to start
another
> > controversy sex education?
>
> What is controversial about sex education? It is only controversial if
YOU seek to make it so.
>
> I was just responding to YOUR statement that sex should not be discussed
with or around children. I notice
> you still have not answered the question.
>
>
> > Don't you wonder why she posts so little except to attack
> > the posts of others and keep the list in as much of an uproar as she
> > possibly can?
>
> If pointing out your mistakes and hyprocricy is keeping the list in 'an
uproar', so be it...but again, if YOU
> are sincere in your statement that you wish this list to maintain civility
and fair play, then you yourself
> should set the standard and stop playing mind games with the list...
>
> Interesting, that when I HAVE sent articles to the list in the last week
or so, you ignore them...
>
>
> > So what exactly would you like done to Aleisha, an older woman from the
past
> > generation, stating her opinion? Silence her?
>
> Lord, yes! You claim _I_ post so little, yet all the Aleisha
subpersonality posts are innane rambling rants,
> with absolutely NO documentation to substantiate the wild claims it makes.
>
> And if you are going to say that it is okay for the Aleisha sub to post
nothing but her personal opinions,
> then why do you seek to silence ME in posting MY personal opinions?
>
>
> > Amelia <not acting as moderator as we started this exchange before that
> > announcement>
>
> I thought that it was announced that you indeed were NOT going to be a
moderator on this list after all. Has
> that changed? Please spell out what your official role, if any, is on
this list.
>
>
> June
>
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