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That is a really rightwing site for those who want unbiased scientifically based
advise. I would not trust them any more than GW Bush. Note this ridiculous
diatribe trying to distance the Bush Administration from Enron.

The Truth about Bush & Enron
http://www.pvbr.com/Issue_1/crcspec.htm

I rest my case.

Steve


On 20 Feb 02, at 16:30, Nakano Nakamura wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> --- Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Would you care to provide a source for this
> > quotation?  Steve
> _____________________________________________________
> Nakano replies:
> Glad to.
> http://www.pvbr.com/Issue_1/global.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1378/global1.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1378/global2.htm
>
> The Forgotten Case for Global Cooling
> By Phil Brennan
> PART ONE
> Foreword
>
> "Is the world heating up? Will the polar ice caps
> melt, raise the sea levels and inundate the coastal
> areas of the world? Will Florida disappear beneath the
> waves? Is humanity facing a fiery cataclysm from
> global warming?
>
> Is mankind in the process of radically altering the
> earth's climate by thoughtlessly emitting monstrous
> quantities of so-called "greenhouse gasses."
>
> Or is it all a lot of hooey?
>
> The answer to these questions is of absolute
> importance to all Americans who value their liberty,
> because as Kim Weissman explained in a recent column,
> behind all the rhetoric about global warming and
> mankind's culpability for this impending disaster is a
> shrewdly planned campaign to inflict a lot of
> socialistic restrictions on our cherished freedoms.
>
> Environmentalism, in short, is the last refuge of
> socialism.
>
> It is no accident that one of those in the forefront
> of the global warming alarmists is one Michael
> Gorbachev, an unrepentant socialist who appears to
> believe if you can't lick 'em one way, find another.
>
> The panic over global warming has totally ignored
> historical knowledge about the constant cycle of
> glaciation and interglaciation -- the record that
> shows for at least the last 700,000 years the earth
> has undergone an ice age every 100,000 years without
> fail. Paleoclimatological studies have revealed that
> these ice ages lasted about 90,000 years, and were
> followed by interglacial periods of temperate climate
> lasting from 10,000 to 12,000 years. The last ice age
> ended more than 10,800 years ago, indicating that we
> are approaching the end of the present interglacial
> period and, if the past is indeed prologue, the onset
> of a new ice age . Moreover, the historical record
> also shows that the onset of ice ages have been
> preceded by an increase in so-called Greenhouse Gasses
> -- the villain supposed to be causing global warming.
> It behooves us, therefore, to look very carefully at
> the greenhouse gas phenomenon. If it is indeed
> heralding the advent of an ice age, we should be aware
> of just what that means in terms of our future and
> that of our children. It also means we should take a
> very careful look at this global warming baloney,
> because under the guise of coping with a widely
> ballyhooed threat, some exceedingly Draconian measures
> are being proposed, and in some cases have already
> been imposed on us.
> In the name of environmental safety we are being
> dragged into a socialistic system. And these measures
> are completely useless. They won't do a damned bit of
> good."
>
>
> >
> > On 19 Feb 02, at 19:15, Nakano Nakamura wrote:
> >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > GLOBALWARMING OR GLOBALONEY?
> > > THE FORGOTTEN CASE FOR GLOBAL COOLING
> > > Cooling? Global refrigeration instead of Global
> > > barbecuing? You bet. And there's a heck of a lot
> > more
> > > solid scientific evidence that what the world is
> > > facing is the onset of a new ice age than there is
> > > behind the very fragile global warming theory.
> > > Up until the mid-Seventies there was general
> > agreement
> > > among researchers, who studied such arcane signs
> > of
> > > the far distant past as sedimentary deposits on
> > the
> > > ocean floor, that sooner or later a new ice age
> > was in
> > > the cards for this planet. Even the CIA signed on
> > to
> > > the idea that the iceman cometh.
> > > The idea that an ice age was approaching was based
> > on
> > > history, not hysteria -- the motivating force
> > behind
> > > global warming studies. And what history taught
> > > paleoclimatological scientists engaged in what is
> > > known as quaternary research, is the
> > incontrovertible
> > > fact that the earth has experienced a long series
> > of
> > > ice ages occurring as regular as clockwork --
> > 100,000
> > > years of glaciation followed by 10-to-12,000 years
> > of
> > > interglaciation.
> > > There is, they maintained, no reason to believe
> > that
> > > what appears to be an immutable law of nature has
> > > somehow been miraculously repealed and the cycle
> > of
> > > glaciation and interglaciation ended.
> > > No reason, except for political expediency.
> > >
> > > Here's a sample of the kind of thing that was
> > being
> > > discussed back in the mid-seventies by that part
> > of
> > > the scientific community that dealt with the
> > > geological history of climate changes:
> > > "The present interglacial interval -- which has
> > now
> > > lasted for about 10,000 years -- represents a
> > climatic
> > > regime that is relatively rare during the past
> > million
> > > years, most of which has been occupied by colder,
> > > glacial regimes. Only during about 8 percent of
> > the
> > > past 700,000 years has the earth experienced
> > climates
> > > as warm or warmer than the present.
> > > "The penultimate interglacial age began about
> > 125,000
> > > years ago, and lasted for approximately 10,000
> > years.
> > > Similar interglacial ages -- each lasting 10,000
> > plus
> > > or minus 2000 years and each followed by a glacial
> > > maximum -- have occurred on the average every
> > 100,000
> > > years during at least the past half-million years.
> > > "During this period, fluctuations of the northern
> > > hemisphere ice sheets caused sea level variations
> > of
> > > the order of 100 meters." (Understanding Climate
> > > Change, published by the National Academy of
> > Sciences
> > > in 1975 -- page 181).
> > > On page 189 the question was asked: "When will the
> > > present interglacial [period] end?
> > > "Few paleoclimatoligists would dispute that the
> > > prominent warm periods (or interglacials) that
> > have
> > > followed each of the terminations of the major
> > > glaciations have had durations of 10,000 plus or
> > minus
> > > 2000 years. In each case, a period of considerably
> > > colder climate has followed immediately after the
> > > interglacial interval.
> > > Since about 10,000 years have passed since the
> > onset
> > > of the present period of prominent warmth, the
> > > question naturally arises as to whether we are
> > indeed
> > > on the brink of a period of colder climate."
> > > "The question remains unsolved."
> > > A study prepared for the 95th Congress in 1978
> > agreed
> > > with the National Academy of Sciences position as
> > > explained in the above-quoted study. The document
> > > Weather Modification: Programs, Problems, Policy
> > and
> > > Potential warned:
> > > "In geological prospective, the case for cooling
> > is
> > > strong ... If this interglacial age lasts no
> > longer
> > > than a dozen earlier ones in the past million
> > years,
> > > as recorded in deep sea sediments, we may
> > reasonably
> > > suppose the world is about due to slide into the
> > next
> > > ice age."
> > > The only question remaining is exactly when and
> > how
> > > glaciation will begin.
> > > Remember, what we are dealing with here is
> > historic
> > > evidence -- not a widely disputed theory as is the
> > > case with global warming.
> > >
> > >
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