Just out of curiosity, which of the following would you classify as racist:
Group(s) pushing "Black Pride" Group(s) pushing "Latino Pride" Group(s) pushing "White Pride" Group(s) pushing to "Buy Black" Group(s) pushing to "Buy White" I submit that all of the above are blatantly, obviously, racist, although I suspect I'll get a different evaluation from you... -- Yours J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Cardenas wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:01:38 -0800 > From: Cardenas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CDR: Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and > "minorities" > > You're a fucking racist. > > If you can't understand why black and latino pride is necessary after > centuries of murderous oppression, the pick up a book. > > Things may have been more violent in the 70's, but thats great. Some > people think that revolutions don't happen by sitting behind a > keyboard. > > MEChA is not a gang, they're an important part of helping lots of > young people to be concious of their own heritage. > > And I respect the people who are willing to dedicate their lives to > something with meaning a lot more than making more microchips for the > rich. You're right about evolution though, all those women's studies > and black studies programs are helping evolution along, so that > racists like you can have their eyes opened more often. > > This is by far the most disgusting thing I've read on this list to > date, and is a huge demonstration of your lilliputian mindedness. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:03:25AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 10:28 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > > > > >"Kevin S. Van Horn" wrote: > > >> > > >>Tyler Durden wrote: > > >> > > >>>Black leadership is one potential issue here, but the other ethnic > > >>>groups that do so well in the US have no identifiable leaders here. > > >> > > >>Which is precisely why those ethnic groups do so well, while U.S. > > >>blacks do not. > > >> > > >>The value of "leaders" is vastly overrated in American society. > > > > > >Same over here in London. > > > > > >I'm a white, English, middle-class sort of bloke. > > > > > >Who are my "community leaders"? > > > > > > > It goes beyond just the "black leaders" thing--it's also about "black > > pride." > > > > My eye-opening experience was my arrival in college (as Brits would > > say, "at university") in 1970. UCSB, in beautiful Santa Barbara. There > > I found students from diverse backgrounds and cultures, mixing in the > > classrooms, the dorms, and the eating halls. Except for the negroes, > > who all sat together at one set of tables in whichever eating hall they > > were in. There may have been a few "stragglers" scattered amongst the > > other tables, but basically it was de facto, self-selected segregation. > > > > Much was spouted about "black pride," and the negroes took to wearing > > huge afros with pimp-combs in their hair. They openly insulted > > "whitey." Essentially, they aligned themselves into a gang. > > > > Many of them switched dorm rooms around, resulting in de facto creation > > of segregated dorm halls. White students avoided these ghettoes, for > > good reason. (I interviewed in 1971 for a "R.A." (resident assistant) > > position, to help with living costs, and my negro interviewer only > > asked my questions about what "CORE" was, what "SNCC" was, etc. My > > answers were PC enough, and I was turned down. More and more of the > > R.A.s were negroes by 1973.) > > > > Special departments were created to handle the surge in negro students: > > Black Studies was the main one, with Sociology expanded to teach > > classes about the oppression and the marginalization of the black > > race," blah blah. Swahili was the language they took to meet the > > minimal foreign language requirements. There were no negroes in my math > > or physics classes. > > > > They were active, however, in student government. One of them, a woman > > named Judy McClellan, used to hop up on the conference tables in the > > student government meetings and walk up and down, ranting and screaming > > at the non-negro, non-Hispanic students. She once, according to > > reporters for the student newspaper who were in the meeting, had her > > negro aides stand at the doors so she could tell the council that > > "nobody is leaving until you pass this" (something about funding for > > her programs, etc.). > > > > The next year the President of the student council, one Robert Norris, > > flashed a revolver at white students who were opposing one of his > > resolutions. When this was reported in the campus newspaper, bails of > > the newspapers were thrown into the lagoon by negroes. > > > > I wrote all of this up in a letter which I sent in June of 1973 to the > > Regents of the University of California. I included descriptions of > > many of the atrocities, including the shakedown of funds from white > > students to go to bogus inner city youth programs (including purchase > > of a $2500 "rare" comic book about negroes, a comic book which nobody > > could later produce to investigators). I described the "La Raza Libre" > > Hispanic gang on campus, the MeCHA rival gang, the Black Pride > > contingent, the Black Students Union, etc. > > > > The Regents replied that what I had reported was known to them, but > > that we live in troubled times, blah blah. I did get a signed letter > > back from Governor Reagan's top assistant saying they were adding my > > report to the list of reported problems. The campus newspaper ran my > > letter in full, and it triggered a minor firestorm. I became sort of > > the "right wing mascot" for a few months. I got a few death threats, > > too, and met with the Chancellor to discuss the issues I'd raised. He > > agreed with all of my points, clucked about the black and Mexican > > gangs, but said, echoing the Regents, that we live in troubled times. > > > > It was clear to me at the time that the focus on "black pride" was > > destructive of _real_ pride. Instead of excelling in math or science, > > or even law or English or whatever, many of them went into dead-end > > fields like Black Studies and Swahili. (My nearby university today is > > UCSC, which has similar programs in Women's Studies, Queer Studies, and > > History of Consciousness. While a few actual scholars no doubt will > > come out of such studies, a lot of the graduates will be waitressing at > > local restaurants, their degrees in Women's Studies of no use in > > Silicon Valley or anywhere else.) > > > > I think of it as evolution in action. Of course, sometimes evolution > > needs to be helped along a bit. > > > > > > -- > michael cardenas | lead software engineer, lindows.com > hyperpoem.net | GNU/Linux software developer > people.debian.org/~mbc | encrypted email preferred > > "Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the > disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders' > attempt to avoid the fact that A is A." > - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] > > -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
