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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Beitzah 015: Plant an "Eder" tree David Wiseman asked: >>4. Rashi also discusses the eder tree (or grass) as something that >>can repel insects - esrogim were also used as insect repellents. The Kollel replied: >>Do you have a source that shows Esrogim were used as insect repellents? ---- David Wiseman responds: Dear Rabbi Kornfeld, Thank you for your reply. The references for the use of esrog as a repellant are from my book on the Esrog. Theophrastes of Eresos, c.. 310BCE. Enquiry into Plants and Minor Works on Odors and Weather Signs. Translated by Sir Arthur Hort. Loeb Classical Library, London 1916. For sandfly: Rojas E, Scorza JV. The use of lemon oil as a sandfly repellent. Trans R Soc Trop Med Hyg 85;803, 1991; cited in Martindale: The Extra Pharmacopoeia, Pharmaceutical Press, London, 1993, 30th Edition, pp1382. - who speak of use of an oil extract fmro the leaves of the citron (Citrus medica) as a sandfly repellant. I have a source for the use of esrog as a snake repellant which IYH will go in my 3rd edition: I am grateful (4/12/2003) to Mr. Stanley Beck of Amsterdam, formerly of Surinam, and a descendent of Abrabanel. He told me that in Surinam one could cut pieces of Etrog (or Lemon) and place them in the pocket, or rub the juice on the skin to repel snakes when trekking through the jungle. He personally saw snakes recoil at the approach of someone who had done this. He also told me that among the natives of Surinam it was a superstition to bury an Etrog or lemon at the four corners of one?s property to repel demons as well as snakes. The only snake that was not affected by this was the Anaconda. In thinking about the repulsion of the snake for the Etrog I am reminded of the story of how Eve ate the fruit (= Etrog) of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Perhaps part of the punishment of the snake for having enticed Eve to eat the fruit was an eternal revulsion of the Etrog and its kin, thus its usefulness as a snake repellant. Thank you once again. Sincerely, David Wiseman Zaide Reuven's Esrog Farm Dallas, Texas -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 11/13/2006 _______________________________________________ Daf-discuss mailing list Daf-discuss@shemayisrael.co.il http://www.shemayisrael.com/mailman/listinfo/daf-discuss_shemayisrael.co.il