Hi Marc, On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 09:39:51AM +0900, Marc Dequènes (duck) wrote: > - is it degrading? > « These are acts that, even if done by consent, convey a message that > diminishes the importance or value of all human beings. » > This does no apply here as there is no depiction of act or even any > message.
I think that is a misinterpretation -- naming something is an act too, which may "convey a message". (I don't think this is critical though) > - is it dehumanizing? > « These are acts that strip a person or a group of their human > characteristics. It may involve describing or treating them as animals or as > a lower type of human beings. » > Apart from objectification already discussed, there is no implication that > woman are only good for sex or any such message. > Maybe some of the Weboob authors do not think highly of woman but we're > discussing the package content and not judging people's thoughts (which we > cannot be sure to know anyway). Same here. > So apart from objectification of women, but without instrumentalization or > degrading message, I was not able to find serious consequences. As much as I > would prefer things to be different (I already told upstream in the past) I > don't feel I have any right or special wisdom allowing me to dictate people > to act and think differently. Banning content because it displease me and > make people uncomfortable while no direct harm has been found is unlikely to > have a positive effect. Consequently unless harmful content I'm not aware of > is discovered in this package I am not going to remove it from the archive. > I would consider adding a neutral warning message in the package description > though, so people can individually decide for themselves if this is > acceptable from their own point of view. I think this is an acceptable compromise if upstream is unwilling to rename things. > I'll be coming at DebConf this year. Feel free to come and discuss it with > me. > \_o< I won't be, but I'm sure there will be some discussion ;-) -- Could you people please use IRC like normal people?!? -- Amaya Rodrigo Sastre, trying to quiet down the buzz in the DebConf 2008 Hacklab