Okay, so there's a way to set up an entirely DFSG s390, just not if you have this OSA. It looked as if the entire networking code had a non-free component. I hope you all realize that you have to make contrib/disks-s390 to hold the OSA bootfloppies until IBM decides to make OSA DFSG free? I really don't see how Debian can NOT distribute the OSA stuff, I just think that the splash screen can't be worded strongly enough. This isn't an optional thing we're talking about, it's hardware: if you got it, you need the OCO modules to get your computer to work. Pragmatism wins.
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Stephen Frazier wrote: >The OCO modules are only needed if you are using an OSA on your s390. Their >are many other ways to attach a s390 to a network that doesn't use an OSA. >They were used long before the recent introduction of the OSA and still >work. IBM has said it is their intention to make the OSA driver open code as >soon as they get permission. Until they do you could have 2 "bootfloppies" >one with the OCO modules for people who only have an OSA to communicate with >and one with out for everyone else. > > > >Stephen Frazier >Information Technology Unit >Oklahoma Department of Corrections >3400 Martin Luther King >Oklahoma City, OK 73111-4298 >Tel.: (405) 425-2549 >Fax: (405) 425-2554 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Galt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:45 AM >To: Jochen Röhrig >Cc: Walter Landry; debian-legal@lists.debian.org; >debian-s390@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Questions concerning S/390 OCO-modules > > > >Wait a minute here, is this going where I think it's going? The >>>bootfloppies<<< for s390 have non-free modules on them!? Does this >requirement of non-free modules ever get remedied, or are these s390 >modules going to saddle the entire arch for the forseeable future? > >On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Jochen Röhrig wrote: > >> >>I assume by installer you mean a package that asks the user to download >>the modules from the IBM site to a certain place in the filesystem and >>then goes on with installation? This makes only sense if the user >>already has a network connection. But he won't have a connection without >the >>modules (s)he is just about to install (at least in most if the cases). >>So at least at bootstrap time (where we need the modules on the ramdisk) >>this is not really an alternative... >> >>Best regards, >> >>Jochen >> >> >> > >-- >The Internet must be a medium for it is neither Rare nor Well done! ><a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">John Galt </a> > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- The Internet must be a medium for it is neither Rare nor Well done! <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">John Galt </a>