On Fri 27 Jul 2012 at 16:21:42 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:43:24 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > Its a balance. Pros and cons. With a PDF printer:
> 
> Define a "PDF printer". What's that? 
> 
> 1/ A physical device (printer) with physical PDF interpreter on it (PDF 
> add-on card)? 
> 
> 2/ A physical device (printer) with logical PDF interpreter on it 
> (software that runs the convertion)? 
> 
> 3/ A software device (virtual printer) with logical PDF interpreter on it 
> (code that runs the convertion)?
> 
> Because until now I have not seen a thing like "1/" and PostScript 
> printer modules are truly costly (it can take up to $200/300) :-)

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/review/1956699/review-hp-laserjet-cp4525-colour-printer

And please don't complain about the price. You did ask and this is
debian-user - not debian-market_place. :)

> >    On Lenny:   PDF --> pdftops  --> pstops --> pstopdf ----> Printer
> > 
> >    On Squeeze: PDF --> pdftopdf ----> Printer
> > 
> > I don't think I would want to criticise the PostScript centred workflow
> > solely on this.
> 
> No, of course, me neither. 
> 
> But what I wouldn't like to see is a moving to PDF just because the sake 
> of moving to something more manageable without having into account 
> technical reasons but simplicity and force-joining (that is, "if CUPS -
> owned by Apple- moves on PDF, linux will follow without questioning the 
> pros and cons"). I would like to see, now more than ever, less 
> "dependency" on CUPS (by "dependency" I mean here that it would be nice 
> to have different alternatives as powerful as CUPS).

Moving to a PDF workflow was a considered decision based on technical
considerations. A good deal of the CUPS printing system is now managed
directly by Debian/Ubuntu and not by upstream.

> > The heart of the matter could be seen as pdftopdf versus pstops. The
> > advantages pdftopdf have been adequately covered - an earlier mail and
> > points 2 to 5 above. Perhaps you could give us the advantages of pstops
> > and what we are missing out on when it is not used.
> 
> Well, I still can't speak on pdftopdf because is too new (there you have 
> a "con") and not present in my system while pstops is:
> 
> sm01@stt008:~$ locate pstops
> /etc/cups/oopstops.convs
> /etc/cups/oopstops.types
> /usr/lib/cups/filter/oopstops
> /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops
> sm01@stt008:~$ locate pdftopdf
> sm01@stt008:~$ 

If you are using Lenny, what do you expect!


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