On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:08PM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote: > On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:48:56 -0700 > Bob Holtzman <hol...@cox.net> wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:34:05AM +1000, Paul Trevethan wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 15:27:17 -0700 > > > Patrick Bartek <nemomm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Much to my regret (and others, too, I'm sure), yesterday, on 15 > > > > April 2016, the beginning of the end began for Wheezy. Google, as > > > > announced months ago, finally ceased support for its browser on > > > > Wheezy. I double checked just to be sure, and in the course of > > > > that check also discovered "official" Debian support for Wheezy > > > > will cease in a little over a week on 26 April 2016 -- just 3 > > > > years after its release. However, it will automatically enter > > > > LTS until 2018 at which time all support ceases and EOL > > > > "officially" occurs. > > > > > > > > Well, at least I have time to look for an alternative. Maybe, > > > > Devuan will be viable by then, but I doubt it. Or Debian will > > > > offer a choice of inits as a standard option during installs on > > > > future releases, but I very much doubt it. > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > > If you want a rock solid Debian based system with no systemd - check > > > out Antix distribution. > > > > There is no mail list, only a forum. It shows systemd in it's package > > list. > > > > Available if you want it in the repos - not installed. Read the forum > notes, it is designed as non-systemd.
It may well be designed as non-systemd but the systend package is still listed. Why? The lack of a mail list still remains AFAICT. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.