I find the idea intriguing as well but if you start to slow down connections
wouldnt that just hold TCP connections open longer possibly making fewer
connections available on the server?

One of the methods of thwarting file sharing sites is to trickle download
many files so that others cannot make connections, would this not have the
same affect as tar pitting spammers? Especially since the pro spammers send
the same spam run through many different servers.

Just thinking outloud.

Rick Davidson
Buckeye Internet Inc
www.buckeyeweb.com
440-953-1900 ext: 222

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From: "Dan Patnode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Tar Pitting


I'm intrigued by this idea.  During a given minute of time I may get 1000
messages.  1/4 of them are slown down (occupying more SMTP/Declude
sessions), but the burdon is spread out.

Can this be applied to increase server capacity?  If I throttle, at the
firewall, the IPs of spammers, will the load on my server be less?

Has anyone tried this on a maxed out server?

Dan


On Sunday, June 15, 2003 16:01, Rifat Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>People intersted in tarpitting and Declude firewall integration can read
>this.
>
>
>
>I just finished the tarpitting protection for my IMAIL server
>I am sending logs to the kiwi syslog server and forwarding it to SQL to
>analyse data
>
>When in a 2 min period a single ip send mail to more than 5 unknown account
>I am blocking the ip address on my netscreen firewall for 1
>hour.
>
>
>The next step of this is to integrate Declude to the firewall
>
>I have 3 weight
>weight 10 warn
>weight 15 warn
>weight 20 delete
>
>Instead of deleting weight 20 i will forward it to an account to send data
>to SQL analyse it and then block it for 1 hour .
>
>NOTE : I am sure that KAMI will be interested :)
>
>Best Regards
>Rifat Levis
>
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