Mathew, Correction there..
.8 is no longer used and is basically empty. .6 has a higher # of false positives than the rest. Not many, but if you want to play it safe, do not use .6. And that is correct: Cox = Cox Cable It is my home connection and since SBC is obviously not an ethical alternative, Cox is the lesser of all evils. Best Regards, <Sr.Consultant /> Phillip B. Holmes Media Resolutions Inc. Macromedia Alliance Partner http://www.mediares.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-888-395-4678 |Ext. 101 972-889-0201 |Ext. 101 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Matthew Bramble > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SORBS-SPAM > > > .8 is one of those F-U blacklists that punishes every user on > a system > because a network administrator saw fit to complain. I would > think that > most of these organizations are bandwidth providers with some sort of > firewall that got tripped by the testing. Spammers don't > rely on open > relays in their own netblocks. I don't see any reason to use > this test. > > .6 is an example of overzealousness and it is defeatist in > nature. Less > people will rely on such lists if in fact the list provider starts > blocking millions of legitimate users. It ignores false > positives and > becomes more of a political statement in effect, and that > doesn't help > me much. My users don't care if SORBS is blocking Cox, they > just want > their E-mail from a friend or business associate. > > Unfortunately this goes both ways. Cox recently started blocking > outgoing SMTP traffic over port 25 from at least some of > their markets. > They did this in order to combat the spam coming from their > users. The > net result is that they might find their way off of some > blacklists, but > E-mail providers are now limited in the solutions they can provide to > their customers since users must use Cox's own SMTP server. > > I wouldn't call that a win. Unfortunately it seems that > there are many > overzealous lists out there, and my thinking is that this is > due to what > compels someone to start offering a blacklist for > free...they're fed up > and they're not going to take it anymore! > > Matt > > > Eje Gustafsson wrote: > > >If someone demands they not get listed then they deserve to get > >blacklisted because OBVIOUSLY they have something to hide. > > > >.6 is List of hosts that have been noted as sending > > spam/UCE/UBE to the admins of SORBS. This > > zone also contains netblocks of spam supporting > > service providers, this could be for providing > > websites, DNS or drop boxes for a spammer. Spam > > supporters are added on a 'third strike and you are > > out' basis, where the third spam will cause the > > supporter to be blocked. > > > >.8 List of hosts demanding they are never tested by > > SORBS. > > > >So of course someone that host spammers will demand they never be > >tested. Almost should be a case for immediate blocking IMO. > > > >Either way with declude there is not reason to directly > block anything > >just use a weighted system where each test add to the total weight. > > > >Best regards, > > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > >Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > > - Your Full Time Professionals - > >Mikrotik OEM dealer - Online Store http://www.fament.net/ > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the > Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an > E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for > viruses by Declude Virus] > > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.