I certainly DO NOT want the ISPs to block outbound port 25!! We have a number of mail customers that must send there outbound mail through the ISPs SMTP server. Now we rely on them to keep the SMTP server up and running, relaying in a timely manner, not adding footers to the email and providing customer service for outbound SMTP issues. Have you ever tried to call Earthlink, Sprint, SBC or PacBell about an SMTP issue?? The point fingers more than the telephone side does!
I want the ISPs to be forced (by law) to shutdown users who send spam. But I don't see this happening any time soon. If it did, some spammer would probably sue the ISP for shutting him down after sending child pornography to pedophiles. I he would probably win. I have resigned myself to the fact that I must fight this battle myself (with a lot of help from my fellow mail admins) and not rely on the government for help. They don't want to get into the political mess this could cause. Thanks to the work of Scott, I have a great tool for this battle. And thanks to everyone else here, I have a place to educate myself on how to fight this battle. Fight the good fight, people!!! Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Daniels > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Virginia Indicts Two Men On Spam Charges > > If ISPs would block outbound port 25 that would go a long way towards > keeping spam. Right now most of our spam is coming from cable and DSL IPs. > We block outbound port 25 except from our mail servers and a couple of > customers who have a legitimate reason to use another mail server. If so > we > open a hole to that mail server only. It's done on a case by case basis. > Is > it a pain in the ass? Most certainly but if any spam leaves our network it > will be easy as hell to track. It really burns my ass to be spammed from > these networks because the provider is either too lazy or incompetent to > block these ports. > > David Daniels > Administrator > Starfish Internet Service > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Burzin Sumariwalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:22 PM > Subject: OT: [Declude.JunkMail] Virginia Indicts Two Men On Spam Charges > > > > I agree with you. The statement was more general than it should have > > been. Personally I think the ISP route > > is one of the best places to begin active anti-spam measures at.... > (Sorry > > ISP admins). If legislatively, ISPs > > can be forced to have customers adhere to strict RFC compliance and if > > legislatively ISPs can be forced to take > > consistent and strict measures it might force spammers into smaller and > > smaller corners. > > > > I don't represent and ISP, so maybe I'm being to optimistic. > > > > > > Burzin > > > > > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/12/2003, you wrote: > > >The only people that will hit the spammers' pocketbooks are the ISPs > getting > > >together and forcing them out of their jobs... or to get people to stop > > >buying their stuff! > > > > ------ > > Burzin Sumariwalla Phone: (314) 994-9411 x291 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: (314) 997-7615 > > Pager: (314) 407-3345 > > > > Networking and Telecommunications Manager > > Information Technology Services > > St. Louis County Library District > > 1640 S. Lindbergh Blvd. > > St. Louis, MO 63131 > > > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
