I am cloce to agree with you but as one of those who is tired of Imail and the high 
cost on hardware needed to handle mail per
customer comparing to Linux systems I would loved to have declude on linux with 
postfix fex.

Declude is the only thing keeping me on Imail. 

Benny

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: 13. april 2004 07:16
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Notification to customers of 
> change of ownership
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> Scott,
> 
> While I respect open source, I think the greater market 
> opportunity for 
> a for profit gateway product is on Windows based servers 
> using MS SMTP.  
> For one, it would probably allow your current base of IMail users to 
> make use of it on the same server if they had a port 
> forwarding firewall 
> to handle SMTP AUTH (or you could also configure the gateway 
> to do the 
> AUTH for them and do away with the need for port forwarding), 
> but more 
> importantly, there is a large market of Exchange and MDaemon 
> servers out 
> there that could also make use of the product, and hopefully 
> marry the 
> capabilities into as few different sets of code as possible.  
> Businesses 
> that pay for their mail server software are much more likely 
> to pay for 
> their spam and virus blocking software as well, while those 
> using things 
> like Postfix are more likely to go the SpamAssassin/open 
> source route.  
> Although Windows costs money as a platform, so do extra servers and 
> extra rack space (and extra servers to support).  So having a single 
> box-solution would be better than a multiple box solution 
> except in very 
> large installations where provisioning is already a practical 
> reality.  
> I would be surprised to see a good business case for any 
> other platform 
> offering the most potential unless you were planing on 
> creating your own 
> SMTP engine, though I'm sure that individually we may have many 
> different needs that don't fit one generalized mold.  From 
> what I have 
> seen with VAMSoft's ORF, you should be able to access all the 
> data used 
> with IMail except for alias resolution, with the obvious 
> caveat that the 
> account list would need to be exported (which could be done with a 
> simple tool), or maybe you could build the hooks in as you do now.
> 
> Another suggestion might be to simplify the code base by marrying the 
> capabilities across versions and providing different levels according 
> the number of accounts similar to how IMail does their 
> licensing.  This 
> probably roughly matches the breakdown of your service 
> currently, with 
> heavier users opting for the more expensive options.  My 
> concern here is 
> more so the speed of the introduction of new features and bug 
> fixes, and 
> the more platforms that you support along with the options available 
> according to the version might make such things more difficult to 
> maintain.  This would also lessen the support and 
> documentation needed 
> according to the current forms of differentiation among 
> versions.  From 
> a business perspective, this might provide better cost 
> justification for 
> lower volume users that seek out more advanced capabilities, and this 
> group represents the majority of mail servers out there and plenty of 
> business opportunity.  And to keep this from impacting the 
> smaller group 
> of current users that this could impact negatively (charging more 
> according to volume and not capabilities), you might want to 
> think about 
> grand fathering them in to a modified licensing scheme.
> 
> Just thought I would mention these things since I'm sure you are 
> actively thinking about alternatives right now.
> 
> Matt
> 
> R. Scott Perry wrote:
> 
> >
> >> Have you already started considering which other MTA's you 
> will try to
> >> integrate with?
> >
> >
> > No decisions have been made yet, but it looks like a 
> gateway product 
> > (which would be compatible with all SMTP servers) may be 
> the way that 
> > we go.
> >
> >> I want to suggest Xmail Server 
> (http://www.xmailserver.org).  I have 
> >> looked at making Declude work with it
> >> before, but never found the time to write the middleware 
> needed.  I like
> >> Xmail for it's speed and configurability, and the next 
> release will add
> >> integrated IMAP finally. I also like the suggestion of MS SMTP 
> >> service, but
> >> either dealing with sinks used in MS SMTP is very difficult or 
> >> developers
> >> think admins are suckers, I have never seen a cheap addin for MS 
> >> SMTP, even
> >> simple ones. Of course, feel free to correct me if they do exist.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions -- we will take a note of this.
> >
> >> Another question, will there be any consideration in making Declude
> >> multi-platform?
> >
> >
> > It is something that we are giving serious thought to.  At 
> this point, 
> > it isn't a high priority -- but something that is being 
> considered as 
> > we do development work.
> >
> >                                                    -Scott
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