I also turned off "Failed Domain Skipping" for the same reasons, but I don't believe that I had any issues besides temporary delays causing confusion when helping clients get their servers back online after failures.  I figure that with all the processing power that goes into spam and virus blocking, caching and failed domain skipping aren't but 0.1% of the utilization and it's likely safer to turn them off.  Who knows.

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
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Interestingly enough, cacheing isn't the problem on our IMail side.  Microsoft has not removed the unresponsive hosts from their MX records despite the problem persisting over a week and those hosts never responding.  If Microsoft had changed their DNS, cacheing would be an issue.
 
Also, MSN addresees would have the same queuing problem.  The MX records for the MSN domain(s) point to the Hotmail servers.
 
Since the problem was particularly bad for us, we've put the dummy zone back in our mail server's local DNS, with the 12, correction, 9 out of 16 hosts that do respond to us.
 
And no, I won't share which 9 hosts with the mailing list, as I'm sure your subset of hotmail servers would be different from mine, and these messages are archived on the web for future admins to stumble over.  If you really need to do this too, look at the mail hosts and spend some time searching for those IP addresses in your sys0521.txt log, but don't forget to check later and remove your dummy zone when Hotmail returns to normal service.
 
Andrew 8)
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I turned off IMail's internal DNS caching in order to avoid situations like this.  I don't host that many local accounts, but I haven't seen any build-ups in my spool either time that Hotmail has had issues.  My thought is that maybe you cached records in IMail that corespond to the servers that aren't functioning properly?  This is one of the reasons why I turned this off at least.

Matt



Robert Shubert wrote:
Incidentally, Hotmail - as of a few day ago - does acknowledge the
problem and said they are working on it. I had to tell my server to
retry for a day before I could start sending to hotmail again.

R

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:40 PM
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I'm seeing 2 things:

My default Imail queuing numbers gave too much emphasis on retry threads
and
frequency.  I've lowered them.

The same 1/4 of the Hotmail MX hosts are still down this week.  I
stuffed
the responsive ones into my cacheing DNS server in a hotmail.com zone
and
that alleviated the queue.  The next day I checked my Imail log, because
I
wanted to get rid of that hotmail.com workaround before it bit me, and I
found that the remaining 3/4 of the servers still regularly told my
server
to come back later, refused connection, or dropped the connection.

Andrew 8)

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This looks like it's an ongoing, long term issue. DNReports MX
connection
problems.

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=hotmail.com


  
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Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing 
connection resets from them

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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