Thank you very much.

I will absorb this and share what I learn


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:00 PM
> To: Harry Vanderzand
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test needed along with sniffer
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 11:13:18 AM, Harry wrote:
> 
> HV> I am testing sniffer right now and wonder if I need to 
> run all the 
> HV> other tests along side it.
> 
> Well, you can probably get by without the other tests, but 
> since you have Declude it would be MUCH better if you keep 
> the other tests in place. Declude's strength is that it 
> allows you to aggregate a variety of tests for greater 
> accuracy. Sniffer is very, very good, but you will certainly 
> see some benefit by using it along with other tests.
> 
> HV> I am trying to reduce my daily workload of analyzing the 
> "spamtrap" 
> HV> and hope that sniffer and surbl will do this.
> 
> Sniffer is perfect for that - particularly if you share your 
> spamtrap data with us. Put another way, if you allow us to 
> use your spamtrap then we will be taking over this work for 
> you. All we need is POP3 account information and some details 
> on how your spamtrap was formed so that we can properly 
> classify it in our SPHUD (Spam Processing Heads Up Display).
> 
> HV> Do I even need surbl?
> 
> Probably not. One of the AI elements in our robots 
> crossreferences incoming spamtrap data with SURBL and other 
> tests. More often than not we have the domain tagged before 
> we see it in SURBL, and if we don't we grab it quickly.
> 
> HV> Any advice in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I recommend reviewing the Spam Test Quality Analysis:
> 
> <http://www2.spamchk.com/public.html>
> 
> You can use this to help tune your Declude configuration. I 
> recommend applying the forumula:
> 
> W = (a^2)100
> 
> Where (W) is the individual test weight (magnitude) based on 
> test accuracy and (a) is the accuracy measured in the 
> analysis (SA = spam-test accuracy, HA = ham-test accuracy). [ 
> Regarding (magnitude), ham tests generate negative weights 
> and spam tests generate positive weights. W will always be a 
> positive value, so if you use an HA value for (a) then you 
> will want to apply a negative W as your weight in Declude. ]
> 
> For example,
> 
>   SNIFFER SA = 0.95, so W = ((0.95)^2)*100 = 90.25, Weight = 90.
> 
>   FIVETEN-SRC SA = 0.59, so W = ((0.59)^2)*100 = 34.81, Weight = 35.
> 
>   NOLEGITCONTENT HA=0.38, so
>     W = ((0.38)^2)*100 = 14.44, Weight = -14
> 
>     -- This test is measured when the test does not fail, so -14
>        must go in second weight column, not the first.
> 
> If you use this analysis you should have your "hold weight" 
> at or about 100. If you set your hold weight lower than 100, 
> you will capture more spam at the risk of more false 
> positives. If you set your hold weight higher than 100 you 
> will have fewer false positives and more spam.
> 
> !! This is research in progress - these formulas appear to 
> work very well in preliminary testing. If you are already 
> happy with your weighting system then you should probably 
> stick with that until this theory has been tested further. !!
>        
> We are developing a utility to do this work automatically.
> In the mean time, you can go through your test weights 
> manually. You shouldn't have to do this frequently.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> _M
> 
> 
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