Anti-spam\virus mail gateways. I know barracuda, (now Symantec), does the splitting for whitelisting.
Kevin Bilbee > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:48 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > Mail gateways or anti-spam products for mail gateways? > > Darrell > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And > Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, > MRTG > Integration, and Log Parsers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:16 PM > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > Other mail gateways do it. Why would it be so difficult to duplicate > the > message and the header changing the recipients in the individual header > files? > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > David Barker > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:30 AM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > To create a duplicate message for each recipient is not a trivial > > issue. > > This is a function of the mail server not Declude. > > > > David Barker > > Director of Product Development > > Your Email security is our business > > 978.499.2933 office > > 978.988.1311 fax > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Kevin > > Bilbee > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:08 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > Delcude has always functioned like this. > > > > What declude could do in this case is to duplicate the message for > each > > recipient and write a new header file to each recipient. Not a big > > issue. > > Deliver to the one that whitelists and run the spam checks for the > > others. > > > > > > > > Kevin Bilbee > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > Darin Cox > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:37 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > It's actually more of an issue of how the mail server handles the > > > message. > > > In the case of multiple recipients, since there is only one message > > > file addressed to multiple recipients in the headers, it's either > > > deliver or not deliver unless you rewrite the headers to modify the > > > recipient list. I think I'd rather not have the spam filtering > > system > > > alter that. Add to the header, yes. Alter the recipients, no. > > > > > > Also, I have not come across a situation where I wanted to let a > > > message go through to one recipient and not to others, except in > the > > > situation of lists which is a whole other topic. > > > > > > Darin. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:11 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > > > > I would call that a flaw, then, in how Declude processes the > > whitelist. > > > > > > I have a listserver email address for which I do not want email > spam > > > checked. This is because I don't want messages going out to the > list > > > that say SPAM in the subject line. Because nobody who is not a > > member > > > on the list can post to the list, there is no problem whitelisting > > the > > > "TO" > > > address > > > for mail sent to the list server email address. > > > > > > However, spammers will send an email to a dozen of our mail > addresses > > > (12 > > > recipients) one of which is the whitelised "TO" address for the > > > listserver. > > > Because of the way Declude processes the whitelist, that means that > > > the other 11 recipient receive the spam even though mail to them is > > > not whitelisted. > > > > > > That is a bad design on Declude's part, wouldn't you agree? Anyone > > > else feel that this needs to be rectified? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of > > > Darrell > > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:25 AM > > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > > > If one user is whitelisted they all will be whitelisted for that > > > email. > > > > There are some things you can do to prevent this like > > > > BYPASSWHITELIST > > > test. > > > > > > > > Darre;; > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > - > > > > - > > > --- > > > > Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for > Declude > > > And > > > > Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI > > > integration, > > > MRTG > > > > Integration, and Log Parsers. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:18 AM > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting flaw in Declude? > > > > > > > > > > > > If an email is received that is addressed to multiple recipients, > > > > one > > > of > > > > whom is whitelisted, does Declude treat the email as whitelisted > > for > > > all > > > > recipients? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type > > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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