Not really to do with Virus but rather interesting information provided by
Scott Perry, I thought I would share it considering the thread has to do
with challenge-responses.

Challenge/Response systems are seriously flawed. Reasons include:

[1] You end up being a spammer (the majority of spam sent to you will result
in confirmation requests being sent to innocent victims)

[2] Spammers now send pretend confirmation requests, presumably to make
people less likely to respond to C/R requests

[3] Many people respond to C/R requests that they never initiated (so you
could still get spam or viruses). A number of people in the anti-spam
community have said that they always respond to challenges, whether or not
they initiated the E-mail.

[4] C/R companies have been known to send out spam and harvest addresses of
people sending to their customers, and apparently sell those addresses to
spammers

[5] The C/R system is patented, so most anti-spam programs using C/R have
legal liabilities waiting to be ironed out

[6] Confirmations sent to mailing lists won't work

[7] Confirmations sent to others using C/R won't work (they send you an
E-mail, your C/R system challenges them, but their C/R system challenges
you, yours then challenges them, etc.).

[8] People that offer a free service end up losing money (by spending time
investigating and responding to C/R systems, dealing with spam received as a
result, etc.) and sometimes get fed up with C/R systems and eventually stop
offering free advice (never knowing how many people won't get the advice),
harming everybody.

[9] Legitimate E-mail from automated services won't be seen (such as when
ordering products online)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:06 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?

Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate your contribution.  I've added several strings
from this Zaep email to my filter that blocks lousy Challenge-Response
emails.

Andrew 8)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude. Virus
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Is this sort of stuff necessary on a list?


I posted to list about a virus problem then I get this stupid (IMHO)
challenge-response stuff.  If everyone did this on all the lists I belong to
- I would do a posting and then spend the next 3 days answering all the
challenge-responses.  I think I will report this as spam.

Dear Greg Hedgepath - get a clue.  

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com



Dear Chuck,

<snip>

Thank you,

Greg Hedgepath


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