Okies now I understand what you mean by "same" partition key.  I think you
are saying

PRIMARY KEY(col1, col2, col3) == PRIMARY KEY(col2, col1, col3) // so far I
assumed they are different partition keys.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Benjamin Roth <benjamin.r...@jaumo.com>
wrote:

> There are use cases where the partition key is the same. For example if you
> need a sorting within a partition or a filtering different from the
> original clustering keys.
> We actually use this for some MVs.
>
> If you want "dumb" denormalization with simple append only cases (or more
> general cases that don't require a read before write on update) you are
> maybe better off with batched denormalized atomics writes.
>
> The main benefit of MVs is if you need denormalization to sort or filter by
> a non-primary key field.
>
> 2017-02-10 19:31 GMT+01:00 Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com>:
>
> > yes thanks for the clarification.  But why would I ever have MV with the
> > same partition key? if it is the same partition key I could just read
> from
> > the base table right? our MV Partition key contains the columns from the
> > base table partition key but in a different order plus an additional
> column
> > (which is allowed as of today)
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Benjamin Roth <benjamin.r...@jaumo.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It depends on your model.
> > > If the base table + MV have the same partition key, then the MV
> mutations
> > > are applied synchronously, so they are written as soon the write
> request
> > > returns.
> > > => In this case you can rely on the R+F > RF
> > >
> > > If the partition key of the MV is different, the partition of the MV is
> > > probably placed on a different host (or said differently it cannot be
> > > guaranteed that it is on the same host). In this case, the MV updates
> are
> > > executed async in a logged batch. So it can be guaranteed they will be
> > > applied eventually but not at the time the write request returns.
> > > => You cannot rely and there is no possibility to absolutely guarantee
> > > anything, not matter what CL you choose. A MV update may always "arrive
> > > late". I guess it has been implemented like this to not block in case
> of
> > > remote request to prefer the cluster sanity over consistency.
> > >
> > > Is it now 100% clear?
> > >
> > > 2017-02-10 19:17 GMT+01:00 Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com>:
> > >
> > > > So R+W > RF doesnt apply for reads on MV right because say I set
> QUORUM
> > > > level consistency for both reads and writes then there can be a
> > scenario
> > > > where a write is successful to the base table and then say
> immediately
> > I
> > > do
> > > > a read through MV but prior to MV getting the update from the base
> > table.
> > > > so there isn't any way to make sure to read after MV had been
> > > successfully
> > > > updated. is that correct?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 6:30 AM, Benjamin Roth <
> > benjamin.r...@jaumo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Kant
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it clear now?
> > > > > Sorry for the confusion!
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a nice one
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 10.02.2017 09:17 schrieb "Kant Kodali" <k...@peernova.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Benjamin Roth <
> > benjamin.r...@jaumo.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes it is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 10.02.2017 00:46 schrieb "Kant Kodali" <k...@peernova.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If reading from materialized view with a consistency level of
> > > quorum
> > > > am
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > guaranteed to have the most recent view? other words is w + r
> > n
> > > > > > contract
> > > > > > > maintained for MV's as well for both reads and writes?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
>
>
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