I'd like to close out this thread. As Benjamin notes, we'll have a single subproject for all of the drivers and with 3 PMC members overseeing the subproject as outlined in the linked subproject governance procedures. However we'll introduce the drivers to that subproject one by one out of necessity.
I'll open up a vote thread shortly so that we can move forward on the CEP and subproject approach. > On May 30, 2023, at 7:32 AM, Benjamin Lerer <b.le...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The idea was to have a single driver sub-project. Even if the code bases are > different we believe that it is important to keep the drivers together to > retain cohesive API semantics and make sure they have similar functionality > and feature support. > In this scenario we would need only 3 PMC members for the governance. I am > willing to be one of them. > > For the committers, my understanding, based on subproject governance > procedures, > <https://lists.apache.org/thread/tgbqpq5x03b7ssoplccxompxj6d1gw90> was that > they should be proposed directly to the PMC members. > >> Is the vote for the CEP to be for all drivers, but we will introduce each >> driver one by one? What determines when we are comfortable with one driver >> subproject and can move on to accepting the next ? > > The goal of the CEP is simply to ensure that the community is in favor of the > donation. Nothing more. > The plan is to introduce the drivers, one by one. Each driver donation will > need to be accepted first by the PMC members, as it is the case for any > donation. Therefore the PMC should have full control on the pace at which new > drivers are accepted. > > > Le mar. 30 mai 2023 à 12:22, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org > <mailto:jmcken...@apache.org>> a écrit : >>> Is the vote for the CEP to be for all drivers, but we will introduce each >>> driver one by one? What determines when we are comfortable with one driver >>> subproject and can move on to accepting the next ? >> Curious to hear on this as well. There's 2 implications from the CEP as >> written: >> >> 1. The Java and Python drivers hold special importance due to their language >> proximity and/or project's dependence upon them >> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+Datastax+Drivers+Donation#CEP8:DatastaxDriversDonation-Scope) >> 2. Datastax is explicitly offering all 7 drivers for donation >> (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-8%3A+Datastax+Drivers+Donation#CEP8:DatastaxDriversDonation-Goals) >> >> This is the most complex contribution via CEP thus far from a governance >> perspective; I suggest we chart a bespoke path to navigate this. Having a >> top level indication of "the CEP is approved" logically separate from a >> per-language indication of "the project is ready to absorb this language >> driver now" makes sense to me. This could look like: >> >> * Vote on the CEP itself >> * Per language (processing one at a time): >> * identify 3 PMC members willing to take on the governance role for the >> language driver >> * Identify 2 contributors who are active on a given driver and stepping >> forward for a committer role on the driver >> * Vote on inclusion of that language driver in the project + commit bits >> * Integrate that driver into the project ecosystem (build, ci, docs, etc) >> >> Not sure how else we could handle committers / contributors / PMC members >> other than on a per-driver basis. >> >> On Tue, May 30, 2023, at 5:36 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: >>> >>> Thank you so much Jeremy and Greg (+others) for all the hard work on this. >>> >>> >>> At this point, we'd like to propose CEP-8 for consideration, starting the >>> process to accept the DataStax Java driver as an official ASF project. >>> >>> >>> Is the vote for the CEP to be for all drivers, but we will introduce each >>> driver one by one? What determines when we are comfortable with one driver >>> subproject and can move on to accepting the next ? >>> >>> Are there key committers and contributors on each driver that want to be >>> involved? Should they be listed before the vote? >>> We also need three PMC for the new subproject. Are we to assign these >>> before the vote? >>> >>> >>
