On 5 Nov 2013, at 14:29, Lukasz Lenart wrote:

So what's the idea here? Should we apply additional logging layer (as
Jason proposed)? Or throw it away and start thinking about new
release?

I have reviewed TODOs and I haven't spotted any urgent task for now.

Currently I am sympathizing with just doing a new release. As mentioned there
are commented sysouts, but I believe we can deal with that later.
It easier to enable logging instead of removing it.

Cheers
Christian



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2013/9/4 Jason Pyeron <jpye...@pdinc.us>:
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From: Benedikt Ritter [mailto:brit...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:28
To: Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [OGNL] Make use of logging?

2013/9/4 Lukasz Lenart <lukaszlen...@apache.org>

2013/9/3 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>:
I found 11 uses of e.printStackTrace and think its pretty bad.
Including OgnlException overwrites printStackTrace and writes to
System.err for some reason.

In addition there are a lot of System.out's, but those are all
commented and seem to have served debugging purposes.

I believe small libs like OGNL should not have logging at
all, but
it seems some of the logging here might make sense. I am
tending to
enable slf4j, which is already used in the testing scope.
Once done
we should use the logging methods for System.out and
printStackTrace.

Why not Log4j or commons-logging?

And it's really annoying to have different logging libs in the same
project just because dependency uses that particular one - I like
Struts2 way where you can choose what logging library you
want to use.
I don't know if developing additional thin layer is a huge
problem -
we can copy paste from S2 ;-)


I agree that small libs should not have logging at all. Are
you really sure it is needed (sorry don't have the time to
dig into the code myself right know)?


As someone who has had to modify the code, yes logging should exist. I have a
fork of it with util.logging here.


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