Looks like we're all in violent agreement then.

On May 11, 2017 11:19 AM, "Matt Sicker" <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I meant this:
>
> @SuppressWarnings("unchecked")
> public static <L, R> ImmutablePair<L, R> nullPair() {
>   return (ImmutablePair<L, R>) NULL;
> }
>
> On 11 May 2017 at 11:17, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On May 11, 2017 1:03 AM, "Gary Gregory" <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Matching the of() static factories, how about ImmutablePair.ofNull()
>> > >
>> >
>> > I like it but at the same time it feels to me like I am getting a NEW
>> > object like ImmutablePair.of(x, y) give me a new object. Might just be
>> me
>> > ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > You provide the methods so that people can get an instance parameterized
>> > for their compilation needs. In reality you can return the same empty,
>> > immutable instance.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, of course:
>>
>>     /**
>>      * An immutable pair of nulls.
>>      */
>>     // This is not defined with generics to avoid warnings in call sites.
>>     @SuppressWarnings("rawtypes")
>>     private static final ImmutablePair NULL = ImmutablePair.of(null,
>> null);
>>
>>     @SuppressWarnings("rawtypes")
>>     // This is not defined with generics to avoid warnings in call sites.
>>     public static ImmutablePair nullPair() {
>>         return NULL;
>>     }
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 11 May 2017 at 00:03, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Wouldn't it make sense to expose typed methods like in
>> > > > > Collections.emptyList() et al.?
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > So in this case:
>> > > >
>> > > > ImmutablePair.nullPair()
>> > > >
>> > > > Gary
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 10 May 2017 at 22:10, Javen O'Neal <one...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > +1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The of method should check if all elements are null, and if so
>> to
>> > > > return
>> > > > > > the NULL singleton. This would reduce the number of objects
>> created
>> > > and
>> > > > > > garbage collected.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > So long as ImmutablePair and ImmutableTriple classes are final
>> (not
>> > > > > > subclassable), then identity checking could be used in place of
>> > > > equality
>> > > > > > checking when comparing against a null tuple. This would be
>> > > marginally
>> > > > > > faster.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any preference of being explicit (redundant) here?
>> > > > > > ImmutablePair.NULL_PAIR and ImmutableTriple.NULL_TRIPLE
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On May 10, 2017 7:35 PM, "Gary Gregory" <garydgreg...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi All,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any thoughts for or against adding the following to
>> ImmutablePair:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >     /**
>> > > > > >      * An immutable pair of nulls.
>> > > > > >      */
>> > > > > >     // This is not defined with generics to avoid warnings in
>> call
>> > > > sites.
>> > > > > >     @SuppressWarnings("rawtypes")
>> > > > > >     public static final ImmutablePair NULL =
>> ImmutablePair.of(null,
>> > > > > null);
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Same for ImmutableTriple.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thank you,
>> > > > > > Gary
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
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>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>

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