Hello. Le sam. 7 sept. 2019 à 13:29, Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> a écrit : > > Thank you, Gilles. I appreciate you reaching out. > > Normally I encourage PMCs to not re-orient or "spindle" the feather where > possible, but I understand that some legacy logos have a bit of a problem > with positioning. For example, the Apache HTTP Server logo: > > - original logo https://twitter.com/apache_httpd/photo > - interim logo https://britewire.com/apache-http-server/ > - new logo > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/project-logos/originals/httpd.svg
So is the choice between * use the exact same feather as the foundation's * not use anything that even remotely looks like feather ? > Whilst I understand the proposed design, I'm not *loving* the look of the > logo, particularly as Apache Commons has such a massive footprint across so > many projects. > > To that end, may I ask a favor? > > Would you and the Apache Commons PMC be amenable to considering having > Central Services --a somewhat new sub-group of ASF Marketing & Publicity-- > help you with creating a new logo? Help from experts is welcome. > If you are not in a rush, we can see how we can help you. I don't think we should be in a rush, as the proposal to change the projects' logo(s) dates back from 3 years ago.[1] > ApacheCon North America starts on Monday, and we can start the discussions on > what your requirements are and the best way to meet your needs. I can only speak about of my preferences:[2] * At most 2 or 3 graphical elements reminiscent of the project (feather included, if applicable) * No URL * Clearly visible at all (reasonable) resolutions [3] * Combinable with 1 additional grahical element (so that we can easily create one logo for each of the many components hosted in "Commons" [4] > ApacheCon Europe is taking place in October: I was thinking the timeframe > between the two events (~6 weeks) would be sufficient for us to have a few > proposals developed. Great. > If this works for you, we can get started this week. Fine with me. > If not, I understand. You may proceed with the proposed logo with the > intention of revisiting and updating in future. Now is a good time. Indeed, that logo is not favoured by the community (at least the few who voiced their opinion).[5] And, IMHO, the alternatives are failing what I consider basic requirements (cf. above).[6] > Many kind thanks again for your attention and consideration. > > Warm regards, > Sally Thank you very much for the offer, Gilles [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMMONSSITE-86 [2] Discussion thread: https://markmail.org/message/twsre7wl6jmue6mp [3] For example, when I look at the top left of the Apache's JIRA pages: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa I see either a bad logo, or an inadequate use of it. [4] See e.g. http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-rng/ [5] Lacking feedback, I opted for an upgrade of the feather using the foundation's new graphics keeping the old (and supposedly consensual) idea for the feather orientation. [6] Even though it's great that Loic Guibert was willing to provide idea and a few examples. > > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, at 17:18, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hello. > > > > We, at Apache Commons, would like to know whether an Apache > > project is authorized to extract graphical elements from the > > foundation's logo, apply some transformation to them, and use > > the result in order to compose its own logo. > > > > Case in point is here: > > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/project-logos/originals/commons.svg > > (where the feather has been rotated). > > > > Does it constitute a breach of the recommendations published in > > the "Identity Style Guide"?[1] > > > > Thank you, > > Gilles Sadowski > > > > [1] https://apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ApacheFoundation_StyleGuide.pdf > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
