On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:55:26AM +1000, David Crossley wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > > >Ross Gardler wrote: > > >>Brian M Dube wrote: > > >>>David Crossley wrote: > > >>>>The dependencies on the main facilities (e.g. WordPress and MySql) > > >>>>seem okay to me. I expect that they would be treated as > > >>>>system requirements, i.e. there is no use for the plugin if > > >>>>there is no server available to connect to and extract content from. > > >>>(Snip) > > >>> > > >>>>Some of them (e.g. ehcache) are already in forrest core lib > > >>>>but need to to updated. > > >>>> > > >>>>If Forrest followed our usual technique of re-distributing > > >>>>the supporting jars as a convenience, then definitely there > > >>>>are some in that list that cannot be re-distributed: > > >>>> > > >>>>e.g. hibernate - See 150 hits for that word on legal-discuss@ > > >>>>especially LEGAL-7 (and its linked issues) and the responses > > >>>>to that and to LEGAL-9. > > >>>> > > >>>>e.g. mysql-connector-java - I expect that there would be > > >>>>similar issues. Is there no suitably licensed alternative? > > >>>I haven't found one. I don't have the energy to make the plugin work > > >>>without Hibernate and the MySQL driver. I'm happy to make the code > > >>>available elsewhere, but this is a blocker to host it here. Note I > > >>>have not contacted legal-discuss. The time and energy for that is > > >>>lacking, too. > > >>If there is no way of getting into Forrest ... > > > > > >We don't know that yet. Brian is not the only person > > >in this community. It is a pity that no-one can make > > >the effort to follow up on such legal aspects.
It looks like you mean that in a general sense, but in this case I didn't expect anyone to champion a plugin that only I have access to. Based on good advice earlier in the thread, I've been holding off contacting legal-discuss until I can write it up in a way that doesn't waste their time or mine. Another factor is that I didn't expect an outcome that would put the plugin on ASF hardware, but see below. > > Peronslly I don't need to follow up. There is GPL code - that's the end > > of the story for the ASF. I too have looked for alternatives in the past > > - they don't (to my knowedge exist) and I've wasted much time on this in > > the past. > > > > I'm offering a solution. If others want to follow up on the legal front > > fine - for me it is a dead end so lets get the code where it can be used. > > I am not referring to finding a replacement. I mean that > our "legal-discuss" list is not a boogey monster. They > want to treat everything on a case-by-case basis. > > No-one has yet even approached them on this matter. > > See Henri's answer in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-8 I read that and the other legal issues in this thread and was discouraged. If I have the time to write a draft that satisfies me, I'll contact them. Brian
