I think these new UIs look great and are very useful.  I'm in favor of
integrating them into Geronimo.  However, I am concerned about how the
patch integrates them.  I would very strongly prefer that they be
integrated as plugins instead of directly into the admin console.  As
a matter of fact I think several of the portlets in the current admin
console should eventually be factored out as plugins.  Then, as the
admin console moves towards a more plugin-centric approach the user
can integrate these UIs directly into the console or keep them as
separate webapps.

Best wishes,
Paul


On 1/5/07, Rakesh Midha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello

 First of all I am sorry for being missing from the list for last few days,
actually I have been trying to get this work item done. I kinda liked the
idea of having ClassLoader, JNDI and Dependency views in console.

 We have discussed this before in dev list, please read the discussion
below.

I got this thing working, so I created three JIRA's, Please have a look at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2689
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2690
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2691

These three JIRA's adds 3 view in console which shows
1. JNDIView
This view shows all the JNDI names binded in various componet contexts as
well as Global context. Have a look at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348327/12348327_jndi.gif
to get idea of what it will show. As we can see it shows JNDI names for
which are available at each component context level. For details of how this
is implemented please have a look  at comments of this JIRA.

2. ClassloaderView
This view shows all the classloaders and classes/interfaces  loaded by that
classloader in heirarchical fashion. Have a look at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348333/12348333_classloader.gif
to get idea of what it will show. As we can see it shows classes and
interfaces for all the classloaders and its child classloaders. For details
of how this is implemented please have a look  at comments of this JIRA.

3. DependencyView
This view shows all the components and repository items and its dependencies
in hierarchical fashion in which they are loaded. To facilitate locating of
items of interest the tree view can be searched.. Have a look at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348336/12348336_dependency.gif
to get idea of what it will show. As we can see it shows dependencies  for
each component. For details of how this is implemented please have a look
at comments of this JIRA.

This is a request that please try these patches and let me know your
comments on it. I think I liked it and these views will definatly be useful
for debugging purpose, and from my expierance I can tell that all these
views are trying to facilitate solving of problems which are difficult to
tackle otherwise.

Also notice that we may like to add another section in navigation for debug
views as shown in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348329/12348329_navigation.gif
this is not implemented for now but we may do it once we agree to put the
above views in console.

Thanks in advance, please do have a look and comment.
 Rakesh

On 7/20/06, Erin Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron Mulder wrote:
> > http://people.apache.org/~ammulder/classloaders.png
> >
> > However, I'm not sure how useful it will be -- it'll show you
> > dependencies at the class loader level, but it won't tell you which
> > class loaders hold a particular class or which class loader you're
> > actually getting at some point when an error is uncovered.
>
> Also, it still needs arrows. :)
>
> Right now, the code for that graph produces SVG.  It would be great to
> make it interactive so that you could drag the nodes around, click on a
> node to load a div that shows which classes are loaded in it, and maybe
> even collapse certain branches.  At JavaOne, I got a few simple
> JavaScript behaviors working with the graph prototype, but I'm not sure
> how complex it would be to add full-out drag and drop.
>
> Perhaps you can throw the code into the sandbox so other people can
> check it out and build on it?  If I recall correctly, I was careful to
> make sure that all of its dependencies have Apache-compatible licenses,
> (which was actually quite difficult).
>
> Alternatively, someone could create and share a non-ASF-hosted plugin
> that makes use of one of the many LGPL graph libraries out there.
>
> Cheers,
> Erin
>


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