Hello Andrew, and Jclouds PMC,

I'm sorry to be so late in replying to this, I confess I had missed it
when it was sent last month and only became aware of it today.

Speaking as a member of the Apache Brooklyn PMC I must confess I am
sad to hear this proposal. Jclouds is one of our most critical
dependencies, and I would worry about the implications for Brooklyn if
Jclouds moved to the Attic. I am worried in any case about the
implications of the lower activity in the community, but that is
another issue.

I have been refreshing my memory about the PMC guidelines on moving to
the Attic [1]. These note that

"In summary, the only reason for a project to move to the Attic is
lack of oversight due to an insufficient number of active PMC members"

(the minimum being three), and that electing willing community members
to the PMC would be the best way to keep it viable. If the worst comes
to the worst "the Board can "reboot" a PMC by re-establishing it with
a new or modified PMC".

Perhaps it would be worth doing a formal [VOTE] poll within Jclouds
PMC itself to see if at least three PMC members would be willing to
continue to carry out that role? If not, maybe other options could be
explored before deciding to move to the Attic, such as some community
members joining the PMC.

What do you think?

Kind regards
Geoff

[1] https://apache.org/dev/pmc#move-to-attic


On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 14:03, Andrew Gaul <g...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> jclouds development has slowed from 123 commits from 26 contributors in
> 2018 to just 24 from 6 contributors in 2022.  This is despite growing
> downloads over the last 12 months from 50,000 to 80,000 for jclouds-core
> alone.  Unfortunately the number of active committers has shrunk and we
> will soon lack quorum for future releases.  This means that the project
> must move to the Apache attic.
>
> Ideally the community could step up to sustain the project, e.g.,
> reviewing pull requests, fixing issues, responding to mailing list
> queries, and eventually becoming committers themselves.  Does anyone
> have a multi-year interest in jclouds that wants to help out?
>
> If not, I will cut a final 2.6.0 release before retiring the project.
>
> --
> Andrew Gaul
> http://gaul.org/

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