Hi guys,

thanks for your update !

I propose to prepare a quick plan describing:
1. PMC set proposal
2. Roadmap/ideas for jclouds future (I would like to mention Karaf Minho here)
3. Send the proposal on the mailing list to move forward on vote and
inform the board

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 11:12 AM Juan Cabrerizo <j...@cloudsoft.io> wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm a PMC member of Brooklyn, happy to try to help JClouds and joining
> the committee. It's a core dependency for us.
>
> Regards
> Juan
>
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 at 16:22, Geoff Macartney <geom...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I would also be willing to join the Jclouds PMC if that would be helpful.
> >
> > Regards
> > Geoff
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:15, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I’m in ;)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > Le jeu. 10 nov. 2022 à 11:56, fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > After some discussions with JB, we are ok to propose our help to join
> > > > the PMC of JCloud and contribute to keep the project alive if anybody
> > is
> > > > ok.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Francois
> > > >
> > > > On 09/11/2022 21:57, Geoff Macartney wrote:
> > > > > Hello Andrew, and Jclouds PMC,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry to be so late in replying to this, I confess I had missed
> > it
> > > > > when it was sent last month and only became aware of it today.
> > > > >
> > > > > Speaking as a member of the Apache Brooklyn PMC I must confess I am
> > > > > sad to hear this proposal. Jclouds is one of our most critical
> > > > > dependencies, and I would worry about the implications for Brooklyn
> > if
> > > > > Jclouds moved to the Attic. I am worried in any case about the
> > > > > implications of the lower activity in the community, but that is
> > > > > another issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been refreshing my memory about the PMC guidelines on moving
> > to
> > > > > the Attic [1]. These note that
> > > > >
> > > > > "In summary, the only reason for a project to move to the Attic is
> > > > > lack of oversight due to an insufficient number of active PMC
> > members"
> > > > >
> > > > > (the minimum being three), and that electing willing community
> > members
> > > > > to the PMC would be the best way to keep it viable. If the worst
> > comes
> > > > > to the worst "the Board can "reboot" a PMC by re-establishing it with
> > > > > a new or modified PMC".
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps it would be worth doing a formal [VOTE] poll within Jclouds
> > > > > PMC itself to see if at least three PMC members would be willing to
> > > > > continue to carry out that role? If not, maybe other options could be
> > > > > explored before deciding to move to the Attic, such as some community
> > > > > members joining the PMC.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > Geoff
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://apache.org/dev/pmc#move-to-attic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 14:03, Andrew Gaul <g...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >> jclouds development has slowed from 123 commits from 26
> > contributors in
> > > > >> 2018 to just 24 from 6 contributors in 2022.  This is despite
> > growing
> > > > >> downloads over the last 12 months from 50,000 to 80,000 for
> > jclouds-core
> > > > >> alone.  Unfortunately the number of active committers has shrunk
> > and we
> > > > >> will soon lack quorum for future releases.  This means that the
> > project
> > > > >> must move to the Apache attic.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ideally the community could step up to sustain the project, e.g.,
> > > > >> reviewing pull requests, fixing issues, responding to mailing list
> > > > >> queries, and eventually becoming committers themselves.  Does anyone
> > > > >> have a multi-year interest in jclouds that wants to help out?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If not, I will cut a final 2.6.0 release before retiring the
> > project.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Andrew Gaul
> > > > >> http://gaul.org/
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --
> > > > François
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Juan Cabrerizo
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>
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