Hernandez, Eli wrote:
> Can you guys provide additional details on how to "boot and install"
> from a live image off a USB stick onto another USB stick? 
> 
> A) Which live image should be installed in initial USB thumb drive?
> (LiveCD or LiveUSB) I currently have
> "moblin-netbook-core-developer-alpha2-20090311" and used UNetbootin
> to copy/burn image into my USB thumb drive.   
> 
The two types - LiveCD and LiveUSB are both ok.

> B) How should the Live Image be burned on initial USB thumb drive?
> (In windows only UNetBootin works for me) 
>
You can use "dd  if=xxx.img of=/dev/sdx" command on linux to burn the image.
 
> C) What boot option should I select to boot from initial USB on my
> netbook? (netbook has windows/xp on HD (c: drive) which I want to
> keep)  
> 
> D) When and to what grub.conf file should I add "rootdelay=10" (only
> see /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/boot/grub.conf running off live image
> boot)   
> E) At what point should I modify /etc/fstab? Should /dev/root entry
> be changed? If so what should it look like? It now has "/dev/root on
> / type ext3 (rw,noatime)" or should a new entry "rootfs" be added to
> the filesystem table configuration. If so, how should the new entry
> look like?    
> 
You should boot from the initial usb with moblin live image and run "Boot and 
install" grub option to start the install.
After you installed the moblin to another usb stick successfully, you can mount 
the partitions of that USB disk 
#mount /dev/sdx2 /mnt/sysimage
#mount /dev/sdx1 /mnt/sysimage/boot"
And then modify the grub.conf ( /mnt/sysimage/boot/grub.conf) and fstab 
(/mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab) for the installed image on your usb disk.
For grub.conf, add "rootdelay=8" and modify "root=/dev/sdx" to the correct 
device name in kernel command line
For fstab, make sure it use the correct device name.

> F) Also at what point I should connect (make available) the USB thumb
> drive for the Moblin installation target? 
> 
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
> BTW: Very good info is flowing on the Moblin project, keep up the
> good work. 
> 

> Thanks,
> 
> Eli
> 
> PS: My netbook BIOS is set to boot off USB drive.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hernandez, Eli
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:55 PM
> To: Wang, Jing J; Tzeng, Tonny; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Tonny, Jing,
> 
> Thanks for the advise I will install Moblin2 to USB key and will let
> you know how it goes. 
> 
> 
> Eli
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wang, Jing J
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:57 PM
> To: Tzeng, Tonny; Hernandez, Eli; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Talking about Moblin installation to another USB, I am making one
> with Vivan's help. In my case, in addition to the tweaks as Tonny
> said, I updated "root=" from "/dev/sdc3" to "/dev/sdb3". It is based
> on what many disks on your target platform.   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Tzeng, Tonny 
> Sent: 2009年4月21日 8:41
> To: Hernandez, Eli; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
> Moblin supports two types of Live images - LiveCD and LiveUSB, only
> LiveUSB images have persistent (i.e. overlay) capability, and it
> sounds the pre-built development image is a LiveCD image, so you may
> need to install to your local hard drive to make any changes.   
> 
> The "Boot and Install" to another USB stick or external USB disks are
> not supported at the moment, however you could still workaround it by
> installing to a USB key and adding 'rootdelay=x" (where x is the
> delay time in seconds, in my case, I use 10) to the kernel command
> line in grub.conf, and edit the rootfs in the /etc/fstab to the
> correct device manually to boot it successfully from a USB based
> device.  FYI.      
> 
> Best Regards,
> Tonny
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hernandez, Eli
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:44 AM
> To: Tzeng, Tonny; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Tonny, thanks.
> 
> 
> Looks like any changes to Live Image for Moblin2 are not persistent -
> do not see dev changes/setup after boot. Is there a Live image which
> will take in and make changes persist across boots?  
> 
> Another question I have is whether a LIVE image from USB can "boot
> and Install" to another USB stick? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eli
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tzeng, Tonny
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:08 AM
> To: Hernandez, Eli; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
> You could install the development image as a starting point as most
> of the build tools and libraries are there.  Please reference the
> Moblin SDK page http://moblin.org/documentation/moblin-sdk for more
> detail instructions.  FYI.   
> 
> Best Regards,
> Tonny
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Hernandez, Eli 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Moblin Dev] Developer Moblin2 image
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm new to Moblin and would like to start developing Clutter based UI
> utilities; i.e. Microphone off/on button, custom progress indicator,
> others. Can anyone please advise what will be most appropriate dev
> env to start with?   
> 
> Also is there a Moblin2 image to get which would include such dev
> env? (e.g. gcc compiler, libs, plugins, etc.) 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Eli
> 
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