On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hagar Delest wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> if the votes are reset, I'll take it as a huge setback for the users >>>> decisions >>> >>> >>> >>> Resetting votes does not make sense. There is a limit on how many bugs a >>> user can vote for and votes can be reallocated, so it isn't necessarily >>> true >>> that an old bug has more votes just because it's been around for longer. >>> But >>> it's true that we are not advertising the possibility to vote as much as >>> we >>> used to: many new users are likely unaware that they can vote. >>> >> >> I was curious to check my intuition on this. So with a bit of effort >> I was able to get the following data out of Bugzilla, showing the >> yearly percentage of enhancement or feature issue types have had at >> least one vote. So it is showing for issues entered in that year, >> what % of those issues have received votes. >> >> Year %Votes >> 2002 45% >> 2003 39% >> 2004 34% >> 2005 31% >> 2006 30% >> 2007 24% >> 2008 23% >> 2009 23% >> 2010 14% >> 2011 5% >> 2012 6% >> 2013 2% >> >> I see a trend here, a very strong one. Plot it and you see a nearly >> linear trend (r = - 0.98). Older issues have received more votes >> than new issuers. >> >> There could be several reasons for this: >> >> 1) Older issues are better issues because they were entered by smarter >> people. But then the linear trend is then odd. Did people become >> less smart in such a regular way over the years? >> >> 2) Older issues have been around longer so they have had a longer >> opportunity to be voted on. This very naturally would explain a >> linear trend. >> >> 3) Users have become less interested in or aware of voting. But >> again, it hard to explain the gradual linear trend. Why for example, >> would users in 2010 entering an issue not even vote for their own >> issue 90% of the time, but in 2002 nearly half of those issues >> received votes? >> > Or it could be that people just got frustrated over time that nothing ever > happened and stopped voting or moved on to other applications that better > met there needs. > The bottom line is that we do not know why it happened and trying to make > decisions based on it does not make sense. >
Oh, but I don't need to explain why this has happened. I only need to note that it did happen to question whether the older vote counts are an accurate reflection of user preferences today. -Rob > Regards > Keith > > >> In any case, this is one reason why I take the old vote counts cum >> grano salis. For whatever reason the votes are biased toward older >> issues. >> >> -Rob >> >>>>> [Rob] Google Moderator was far easier to use for users than BZ is. That >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> why we received far more feedback with Moderator. I'm sorry that the >>>>> troglodytes don't like that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Not only troglodytes. Many users interpret the votes in Bugzilla as their >>> opportunity to influence the OpenOffice decisions (and would find >>> offensive >>> to be assimilated to troglodytes). Honestly, except for a couple of >>> occasions years ago when a review of "most voted issues" was done, votes >>> are >>> scarcely taken into consideration. This is the problem. >>> >>> There is room for improvement here: you once posted the most voted >>> issues, >>> but if we made it regularly and we committed to fixing the most voted >>> issues >>> (or, more realistically, to direct to the most voted issues people who >>> want >>> to help with development or sponsor it), things would improve. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Andrea. >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
