On 5/27/13 5:17 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to discuss our further schedule towards AOO 4.0 and the
> problems I see. And I would like to discuss a proposal how to address
> these problems.
> 
> We are behind our schedule a little bit and we have identified some
> problems regarding the 64bit port on MacOS that I will try to explain
> below (hopefully without too many technical details that everybody can
> understand it).
> 
> Proposal
> ========
> - Move MacOS 64 bit version to 4.1 and merge stlport relevant changes
> (all platforms) asap into trunk and include them in AOO 4.0.
> 
> - Move into showstopper mode next week, beginning with June 3th. Means
> we integrate only showstopper flagged issues and new translations. And
> potentially new art work if we get a new logo and icons in time.
> Deadline for new art work should be June 10th.
> 
> - Intensive QA with the stlport changes to detect potential problems
> 
> - Create a AOO 4.0 branch 1 week later, June 10th, where we hopefully
> have integrated already returned translations.
> 
> - Translation deadline will be set to June 14th to have some time for
> the integration and further testing. Further translations can we release
> at a later time as a special language update release (TBD)

I have to correct myself because I am probably the bottle neck here and
I will be not available from June 14-17.

But maybe others can help to update at least the pootle server.

Means that I will integrate the translations on June 18th latest. But if
possible please provide them earlier.

Juergen



> 
> 
> 
> I would still like to keep the end of June date because everything else
> looks quite nice and we should give our users the new sidebar.
> 
> A shifted release date won't really help us because we will move in the
> vacation time and I think it is better to bring the 4.0 version out before.
> 
> Once we have solved the mozilla problem for the 64bit version we can
> decide if we want release a 4.1 immediately or later together with
> further improvements, fixes and further languages.
> 
> 
> Background Explanation
> ======================
> 
> Herbert did a great job with his ongoing work to port AOO to 64bit on
> the MacOS platform. This work is mainly triggered and motivated by the
> deprecation of some system abi's and the drop of 32 bit Java. In short
> we switched to the clang compiler, a new platform SDK, XCode4, replaced
> for example atsui API with CoreText, get rid of stlport (on all
> platforms) and did many more cleanup that work that were necessary
> because of better and/or different compiler/linker behaviour or error
> messages etc. Everything looked quite well until we focused on the still
> used precompiled older Mozilla libraries. We currently struggle with
> porting this stuff to 64 bit and evaluating if we can get rid of them
> completely. A complete drop of the mozilla libs would be a further huge
> improvement but it is of course a lot of work to understand the code
> first and all dependencies and to replace it with some new code... At
> the moment we see this on risk for AOO 4.0 and plan to postpone this to 4.1.
> 
> But the drop of the stlport lib is relevant for all platforms and will
> introduce a binary incompatibility. The best and only time for such an
> incompatible change is a major version. The plan is to extract the
> stlport relevant changes and merge them on trunk asap (this week). This
> will decouple any further work on the 64bit port and we can release the
> 64bit version at any time later (as 4.1) because the 64bit version is
> based on a completely new platform on MacOS additionally to the existing
> one.
> 
> The 32bit version will be part of the AOO 4.0 release and we will need
> this version for backward compatibility on older system anyway. The
> 64bit version will run on 10.7 and newer only.
> 
> 
> I am looking forward to any constructive feedback or concerns.
> 
> Juergen
> 


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