On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On May 28, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > On 5/28/13 4:12 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On May 27, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi - > >>> > >>> I just now reviewed Jürgen's latest snapshot build and I have some > trademark concerns. The current UI and Help file seem to be out of Apache > Branding policy[1][2] in two ways. > >>> > >>> (1) The most prominent use of the brand in many place is "OpenOffice" > when it ought to be "Apache OpenOffice." This is the case in many places > throughout the UI and Help files. > >>> > >> > >> Can you give some examples? > > > > I agree we need concrete examples. We discussed the usage of OpenOffice > > instead of Apache OpenOffice her eon the list weeks/month ago. I am > > wondering why this pops up now. > > Understood. I took some time to search for uses of "productname" and there > are a large number. Let's just say that I am bringing it up now so that we > can start on it early for 4.1. We can add a shortproductname and choose > when we say "Apache OpenOffice" and "OpenOffice". > > We need to do this in a way that helps the ASF and the AOO PMC defend the > brand. > > Since this is large let's let this happen immediately after the 4.0 > release. Let it be a branding effort, call it 4.1. > > > > > The intro and about clearly state Apache OpenOffice. Many other > > occurrences are simply OpenOffice, the term that all use normally. > > Let's pay attention to these screens as we update to the new logo and the > below: > > > > >> > >>> (2) There is no trademark attribution in the application UI. > >>> > > > > What exactly do you have in mind? > > > > We can add or change the intro image to > > > > ## > > Apache, the Apache feather logo, and OpenOffice are trademarks of The > > Apache Software Foundation. OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are > > registered trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation. Other names > > appearing on the site may be trademarks of their respective owners. > > ## > > > > maybe we can add a short form to the start center but I am not sure. I > > have never seen it in a prominent place in an application. > > Yes it can be something like this maybe a fourth tab. Trademarks on the > dialog with Readme, License, and Notices. Since it is is legalese it can > always be in English. Is this what you mean? If so, good. > > We also should write "TM and Copyright" on the About. > > > > > But we can for sure add an untranslated version in the about box and the > > intro > > How can I help? > > Regards, > Dave > For anyone's information, the relevant discussion on this is here: http://markmail.org/message/uzml36utq744as6q > > > > Juergen > > > > > >>> I'm willing to help mitigate these issues if someone wants to point me > towards the correct action. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/responsibility.html > >>> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing." -- Leonard Peltier
