On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 08/12/2014 jan i wrote:
>
>> So may I politely ask, what have changed, that we now believe this will
>> all
>> go away, and we can have it all solved in a short time ?
>>
>
> Not much has changed indeed. I pushed to have buildbots running before the
> release, but indeed if buildbots are problematic and the same volunteers
> who built the previous releases can still commit to doing so for the next
> one, it is no major problem.
>
> Very honestly, I would like that we don't depend on individuals for
> project resources, but maybe it is easier for a developer to share an
> existing virtual machine (and possibly get it running at Apache) than to
> prepare a buildbot environment.

 equally honest I would be happy if we just had 1 person prepared to do the
job. Wishing for multiple people is a luxury I  don't think we can afford.

>
>  do we really want to wait until this magically happens ?
>>
>
> No, since it won't magically happen. So, what is the minimum we can do for
> a 4.1.2 release? I would set it at:
> - New/updated translations
> - New/updated dictionaries
> - Bugfixes (to be discussed)
> - Signed Windows binaries
> - Binaries for all other systems as usual
>
> I can volunteer for the first two items (coordinating translations and
> adding/updating dictionaries).
>
> But I'm actually missing some information maybe. Out of the following
> releases, which ones were built on individuals' machines for 4.1.1? All?
> Some? And are these built in a VM that we could consider moving to Apache
> hardware or not?
> 1) Windows
> 2) Linux 64 bit (RPM+DEB)
> 3) Linux 32 bit (RPM+DEB)
> 4) Mac


none of our buildbots run with release setting (something I have advocated
for a long time), so its unlikely that any asf vm was used.

rgds
jan i

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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