On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/11/2016 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Fri, 2016-11-11 at 08:33 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>> Just to address this specifically, I am referring to Apple's penchant for
>>> stuffing their machines with hardware from vendors that don't play well with
>>> open-source (for example, switching to wifi-only devices and shipping 
>>> Broadcom
>>> chipsets with no open-source drivers). Then also playing games with their
>>> bootloader system so that we have to go through lots of hoops to trick it 
>>> into
>>> letting us install.
>>
>> The whole 'you're only allowed to use OS X in virtualization on top of
>> real OS X' thing is fairly actively hostile too.
>>
>
> Then there's
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5c8s1k/warning_2016_macbook_pro_is_not_compatible_with/
> which looks like Apple is now going to start reporting incorrect PCI IDs to 
> make
> their NVMe SSDs unbootable to alternate OSes...

So really then they're just on feature parity with some of the other
modern ultra books from the likes of Lenovo then :-)
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