Am 12.09.2015 um 16:21 schrieb Orion Poplawski:
Oh I certainly won't argue that it's easier for the end user/admin to work with one tool. Although we are getting better tools: ansible, puppet, et. al. offer the ability to install and track packages with other tools like pip/gem/etc, though I admit to not having tried doing that specific thing yet. But if we're in a situation where we are just killing ourselves shoehorning upstream's mess of bundled requirements into rpms and their response is just 'well just run "pip install foo" and be done with it', I think it's time to just let everyone do that. Then maybe we can see if that is the way to software install nirvana or if admins start complaining about not being able to maintain their systems in a rational way. We can then point these latter folks upstream and say this is what these folks wanted you to do, talk to them about it.
bad idea to start the mess and when it goes wrong point somewhere elsei hear that all the time when something breaks terrible my workflows and at the end of the day nobody feels responsible - well, i tell you what i do: ignore pip, cpan & co as well as any software which requires me to touch it and finally Fedora if it goes that way
just because i migrated anything 7 years ago to Fedora don't mean i am married with it if it goes completly offroad.............
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