I said usually, but didn't say that I liked it. I didn't know about he FCC 
ruling on ESSB. If they have implicitly endorsed 4.5 kHz analog voice, its an 
improvement. My support for regulation by bandwidth was to eliminate regulation 
by content, which still exists. I argued for a 25 kHz limit on HF.

73,

John
KD6OZH

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jgorman01 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 23:35 UTC
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......


  ยง 97.307 Emission standards.
  (a) No amateur station transmission shall occupy more
  bandwidth than necessary for the information rate and
  emission type being transmitted, in accordance with 
  good amateur practice.

  (f)(2) No non-phone emission shall exceed the bandwidth
  of a communications quality phone emission of the same 
  modulation type. The total bandwidth of an independent
  sideband emission (having B as the first symbol), or
  a multiplexed image and phone emission, shall not exceed 
  that of a communications quality A3E emission.

  Why do you chose 3 kHz. The FCC recently issued a ruling NOT LIMITING
  SSBSC to 3 kHz. This allows advancement of the radio art in using
  SSBSC transmissions out to 4.5 kHz, or as some say ESSB. I would
  imagine an image transmission could use this bandwidth also, assuming
  you were using 4.5 kHz for the SSB part of your transmission.

  Paragraph (a) simply says "information rate and emission type". I
  don't see a specific limitation here. In addition, (f)(2) allows ISB
  or multiplexing to go out to 9 kHz, i.e. A3E. Again, I don't see any
  3 kHz restriction. If you mean you can't use your plain old off the
  shelf commercial SSB rig for ISB or multiplexed audio/image, then
  there is a problem, but it isn't the regulations, it is your rig.

  Keep in mind, the bandwidth petition would have eliminated these
  options and made you stay within 3 kHz!

  Lastly, you are mixing content restriction problems with bandwidth
  restrictions. If content regulation is needed then that can be
  addressed without bandwidth restrictions.

  Jim
  WA0LYK

  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Stephensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  wrote:
  >
  > 47cfr97.307(f)(2) limits the bandwidth of all transmissions in the
  phone/image segments to that of AM or SSB communications quality audio
  which is usually interpreted as 3 kHz. There is nothing allowing data
  (computer communications) or RTTY (direct printing telegraphy) in the
  phone/image segments. Unfortunately, image is defined as facsimile and
  television. 
  > 
  > 73,
  > 
  > John
  > KD6OZH
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: jgorman01 
  > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 20:56 UTC
  > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ARRL wake up ......
  > 
  > 
  > Can you give me a regulation that restricts very wide modems within
  > the phone/image segments. If you are talking about using data in the
  > phone/image segment, I'll agree but I don't see a paragraph that
  > limits bandwidth within the phone/image segment.
  > 
  > I will agree that wider bandwidths could be allowed on the 70cm band.
  > Wonder why a petition wasn't filed that dealt with this issue only.
  > 
  > Jim
  > WA0LYK
  > 
  > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@>
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > One problem is that very wide modems are allowed only outside the
  > phone/image segments, which is the opposite of what is reasoable for
  > users. Another example is that data modes are only allowed a 100 kHz
  > bandwidth on 70 cm which is 30 MHz wide.
  > > 
  > > 73,
  > > 
  > > John
  > > KD6OZH
  >



   

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