Rick, Go get a life. I am not leading or selling ANYTHING.
I am telling you that from here the 6M band is DEAD. And, the 100 kHz segment I would like the Plan to set aside for HSMM testing is up around 53-54 MHz, and NOT on any "frequencies that are set aside for weak signal, DXing, radio control, etc." Of course, it would be coordinated in each area with the local FM repeater coordinating group, just like we have always done. %$#& how many times to I have to write that? Now can we get back to the talking about the subject? Thank you, & vy 73, John - K8OCL ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:32:22 -0500 John, Look at your continued choice of language! You just do not have a clue about leadership or you would never talk like that. You are intentionally polarizing and increase, rather than decrease opposition to what you think you are promoting. Be careful when you start to make claims of what others may or may not have experienced, since unless you know the person well, you don't have that knowledge. Many of us, myself included, have had many opportunities to lead many efforts over our lifetime, both work related and volunteer. As a mostly retired person I continue to work with volunteer efforts, amateur radio included. I co-moderate a group of well over 1000 fellow farmers and you will find widely different views. Sometimes we have to agree to disagree, but we don't have to get personal as you have repeatedly done with putting others down as less experienced, less knowledgeable, than you claim to be. Just because someone supports the status quo does not mean that they are necessarily wrong. Just because someone wants change doesn't necessarily mean its the right thing to do. As President of our county amateur radio organization, I try and work with the strengths of our members and promote our group as welcoming to new members, plus had the opportunity to set up the first VE team many years ago and teach many amateur radio classes in several communities since I have been working in such capacities for decades. One of our most difficult tasks a few decades ago was how to get disparate amateur radio clubs and groups together for the common good. It took several years, but enough of the leaders did what was right for amateur radio and built a very strong bond with new and old members. I like a good debate and I promote sifting and winnowing as much as anyone (probably more). But only if it is reasoned and respectful and not stooping down to name calling as you do. In fact, it is shown time and again that those who name call, do so because they have no real argument and are frustrated that they are losing the argument. And people intuitively know that and those name callers are eventually marginalized to the fringes where they belong. Like many (most?) hams, I am skeptical that having extreme wide bandwidth modes are a good idea on any of our HF and lower VHF bands. On the other hand, in our area, 6 meters is lightly used even though the band plan would make it difficult to incorporate ultra wide bandwidth modes without some reallocation to the plan. Because 6 meters can open up to very long distances, including worldwide, one has to be very careful about conflicting with other types of activity. We can not use frequencies that are set aside for weak signal, DXing, radio control, etc. The 6 meter repeaters take up a large chunk of the band. The one area that looks the most promising would be 50.3 to 50.8 with some accomodation to digital packet at 50.62. We used to have a number of 6 meter digital links here in the state but I think most of those have been discontinued. But we can not just think of our area since we could cause serious interference to other areas and even regions if the bands open with Es and F layer propagation. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: > Rick, > > Unless you have had the "opportunity" to lead such an effort, it > is you who should "knock it off". Obviously you have never stepped > into the heat. Lack the courage to lead, Rick? So you too are writing from > a non-experienced position, non-leadership situation, just like my old > friend Bruce? > > Putting up with nit picking, barracks lawyers like Bruce and his ilk of > ill-informed > narrow-minded Hams for four years is what made me bitter about many Hams. > I used to be a nice guy too! But I love this avocation. It's our frequent > refusal as > a group to adapt and our anti-progressive head in the sand approach, almost > (almost! HI) makes our dinosaurs' fate deserving. > > See how quickly Bruce labels those who are trying to look ahead as > "elitists"! > He's afraid of change. And, I can't take his fear away. And, if he won't > read > and try to comprehend, well, I have only so much time to try to help him > catch > up. I have my own keeping up ti take care of, ya know (HI) ? > > Like they say down here in TX, you can lead a horse to water, but... > > Thanks for the feedback, Rick. > > Vy 73, > John - K8OCL >
