I'm paying quite a bit less for a twcable 10mb pipe into one of our dc's Does this have to be into that facility? Or would a carrier neutral NOC work?
-----Original Message----- From: discuss-boun...@socalfreenet.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@socalfreenet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Fanady Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:01 PM To: SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List Subject: Re: [SCFN] ITS ALL ABOUT THE BACKBONE - THE INTERNET BACKBONE We're still sitting on the fence with a project where we're looking for similar bandwidth solutions. We're in an area where the only easy solution is DSL. There's no cable, and no fixed wireless. So if we want more than a 6 Mb/s DSL line, we have to either go with a fractional DS3, or bonded T1's....and they're both quite spendy. This question is actually directed at Shapery, but anyone else is welcome to comment of course. The best quote we got for bandwidth was from Time Warner. All speeds are symmetrical. For a 36mo term, we could get: 5 Mb/s $850/mo 10Mb/s $1,250/mo 20Mb/s $1,850/mo 45Mb/s $2,895/mo These CIR are based on a 100 Mb/s ethernet pipe. Do these prices seem in line with what you would expect to pay? The location is on Miramar Road across the street from the Marine base. -M@ On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Steve Shapery <st...@shapery.com> wrote: > The Tubes are full!!! > > Fundamentally, there is no "Core Backbone" for the internet. It is a > conglomeration of multiple private carriers, who 'peer' at public and > private points using the BGP protocol. (See: NAP, MAE-WEST, etc) > > if you want to connect to 'the core Internet' you'll need to get a > circuit from a "Tier-1" carrier - i.e. ATT, Level (3), etc.. and then > you will be as close as you can get to 'the core'. > > as for high-speed connections - these days, you can get good pricing > from multiple Tier-1 or Tier-2 carriers for 100Mbps circuits into a > colocation facility, or anywhere that's on their networks (see: > ON-NET). depending on how many sites you want to branch out to for > coverage, it can get quite pricy quite quickly. > > But as an example, you can get many carriers to extend their fiber > footprint into your facility based on spend and term commitment - I > have Cox trenching and doing a 3000' fiber build into one of my > buildings based on a $10,500/mo spend commit on a 36 month term. > That's for a dedicated 100Mbps circuit to Mexico. For Internet, you > can get alot of services quite a bit cheaper - currently, I can get > 1000Mbps wire to the internet with a 100mbps CIR for $3000/mo. > > So look around - if you want to play in the Enterprise market, let me > know and I can introduce you to some of my salespeople. > > > --Steve > > > > > Brian Whalen wrote: >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> >> <html> <head> >> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> >> </head> >> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> >> green bean wrote: >> <blockquote >> cite="mid:827143b70904261100t402e0b7le18ffaea9f9d5...@mail.gmail.com" >> type="cite"> >> <div dir="ltr">could someone please explain to me how to connect >> directly to the internet backbone?<br> >> or to buy bandwidth at a wholesale price?<br> >> my goal would be to plan a WISP [wireless internet service provider]<br> >> with enough bandwidth both up and down that <br> >> one thousand customers could each have broadband service more or less<br> >> equal to a cheap DSL connection of 0.5 MBPS. lets assume only >> one-fourth of the <br> >> customers are online during internet rush hour. so 250 x 0.5 MBPS = 125 >> MBPS<br> >> which is why i would like to directly connect to the internet backbone >> at a wholesale price <br> >> much less than if i had to buy [retail priced] bandwidth 6MBPS at a >> time. <br> >> how is that done?<br> >> </div> >> <pre wrap=""> >> <hr size="4" width="90%"> >> _______________________________________________ >> SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List >> To unsubscribe, please visit: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" >> href="http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org";>htt p://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org</a></pre> >> </blockquote> >> Either connect to multiple providers and get an AS number and speak BGP >> to several providers, or connect to a single provider that does this >> already, some emphasize carrier neutrality, Internap was the defacto >> standard in the past for this, I don't know about now.<br> >> <br> >> Brian<br> >> </body> >> </html> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List >> To unsubscribe, please visit: >> http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List > To unsubscribe, please visit: > http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org > _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org _______________________________________________ SoCalFreeNet.org General Discussion List To unsubscribe, please visit: http://socalfreenet.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_socalfreenet.org
