I just set up a high bandwidth user with 3 DSL connections and 3 Cable
connections and an SWAN SW-88 Load balancer. They too were looking at TW
fiber but also wanted redundancy. I could have set them up with 4 of each, but
they didn't feel they needed that much bandwidth. The load balancer does fail
over between connections and provides them with all the bandwidth they require
at a fraction of what they would have to pay TWC for a 10Mb connection. And
since they are using half DSL and half Cable, the odds are that only one will
go down at a time, so they are less likely to lose connectivity. The load
balancer is capable of working with either static or dynamic addresses, or
both at the same time.

I thought it was an interesting project. I don't know if it is applicable to
your situation. You can view my write up and some screen shots at
http://www.linuxgeek.net/?page_id=121

Matt Fanady wrote:
> We're still sitting on the fence with a project where we're looking
> for similar bandwidth solutions.  We're in an area where the only easy
> solution is DSL.  There's no cable, and no fixed wireless.  So if we
> want more than a 6 Mb/s DSL line, we have to either go with a
> fractional DS3, or bonded T1's....and they're both quite spendy.
>
> This question is actually directed at Shapery, but anyone else is
> welcome to comment of course.
>
> The best quote we got for bandwidth was from Time Warner.  All speeds
> are symmetrical.  For a 36mo term, we could get:
>
> 5 Mb/s  $850/mo
> 10Mb/s $1,250/mo
> 20Mb/s $1,850/mo
> 45Mb/s $2,895/mo
>
> These CIR are based on a 100 Mb/s ethernet pipe.
>
> Do these prices seem in line with what you would expect to pay?  The
> location is on Miramar Road across the street from the Marine base.
>
> -M@
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Steve Shapery <st...@shapery.com> wrote:
>> The Tubes are full!!!
>>
>> Fundamentally, there is no "Core Backbone" for the internet.  It is a
>> conglomeration of multiple private carriers, who 'peer' at public and
>> private points using the BGP protocol. (See: NAP, MAE-WEST, etc)
>>
>> if you want to connect to 'the core Internet' you'll need to get a circuit
>> from a "Tier-1" carrier - i.e. ATT, Level (3), etc.. and then you will be
>> as close as you can get to 'the core'.
>>
>> as for high-speed connections - these days, you can get good pricing from
>> multiple Tier-1 or Tier-2 carriers for 100Mbps circuits into a colocation
>> facility, or anywhere that's on their networks (see: ON-NET). depending on
>> how many sites you want to branch out to for coverage, it can get quite
>> pricy quite quickly.
>>
>> But as an example, you can get many carriers to extend their fiber
>> footprint into your facility based on spend and term commitment - I have
>> Cox trenching and doing a 3000' fiber build into one of my buildings based
>> on a $10,500/mo spend commit on a 36 month term.  That's for a dedicated
>> 100Mbps circuit to Mexico. For Internet, you can get alot of services
>> quite a bit cheaper - currently, I can get 1000Mbps wire to the internet
>> with a 100mbps CIR for $3000/mo.
>>
>> So look around - if you want to play in the Enterprise market, let me know
>> and I can introduce you to some of my salespeople.
>>
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Whalen wrote:
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>> <html>
>>> <head>
>>>   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>>> </head>
>>> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
>>> green bean wrote:
>>> <blockquote
>>>  cite="mid:827143b70904261100t402e0b7le18ffaea9f9d5...@mail.gmail.com"
>>>  type="cite">
>>>   <div dir="ltr">could someone please explain to me how to connect
>>> directly to the internet backbone?<br>
>>> or to buy bandwidth at a wholesale price?<br>
>>> my goal would be to plan a WISP [wireless internet service provider]<br>
>>> with enough bandwidth both up and down that <br>
>>> one thousand customers could each have broadband service more or less<br>
>>> equal to a cheap DSL connection of 0.5 MBPS. lets assume only
>>> one-fourth of the <br>
>>> customers are online during internet rush hour. so 250 x 0.5 MBPS = 125
>>> MBPS<br>
>>> which is why i would like to directly connect to the internet backbone
>>> at a wholesale price <br>
>>> much less than if i had to buy [retail priced] bandwidth 6MBPS at a
>>> time. <br>
>>> how is that done?<br>
>>>   </div>
>>>   <pre wrap="">
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>>> Either connect to multiple providers and get an AS number and speak BGP
>>> to several providers, or connect to a single provider that does this
>>> already, some emphasize carrier neutrality, Internap was the defacto
>>> standard in the past for this, I don't know about now.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Brian<br>
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