Yeah, so we should maybe start using the upcoming v1.3 metadata when the related PEP is accepted...?

Daniel Holth kirjoitti 04.09.2017 klo 17:48:

Well, none of the metadata generated by bdist wheel conforms to an accepted pep. But if you rely on the json file then you won't be interoperable with wheels from any other generator.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2017, 10:06 Alex Grönholm <alex.gronh...@nextday.fi <mailto:alex.gronh...@nextday.fi>> wrote:

    Yes, I see the inclusion of a metadata file which conforms to an
    unaccepted PEP as potentially dangerous.

    Perhaps I should disable it in the next release?


    Daniel Holth kirjoitti 04.09.2017 klo 17:03:

    Some people enjoy using metadata.json which tracked pep 426 but I
    have been meaning to take it out, and perhaps keep the key/value
    to json converter as a command.


    On Mon, Sep 4, 2017, 09:33 Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com
    <mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Some time ago, I started the process [1] of adjusting how
        distutils-sig uses the PEP process so that the reference
        specifications will live on packaging.python.org
        <http://packaging.python.org>, and we use the PEP
        process to manage *changes* to those specifications, rather than
        serving as the specifications themselves (that is, adopting a
        process
        closer to the URL-centric way the Python language reference is
        managed, rather than using the RFCstyle PEP-number-centric
        model the
        way we do now).

        I never actually finished that work, and as a result, it's
        currently
        thoroughly unclear [2] that Description-Content-Type and
        Provides-Extra are defined at
        https://packaging.python.org/specifications/#core-metadata
        rather than
        in a PEP.

        I'm currently at the CPython core development sprint in San
        Francisco,
        and I'm thinking that finalising that migration [3] and
        updating the
        affected PEPs accordingly (most notably, PEP 345) is likely
        to be a
        good use of my time.

        However, I'm also wondering if it may still be worthwhile
        writing a
        metadata 1.3 PEP that does the following things:

        1. Explicitly notes the addition of the two new fields
        2. Describes the process change for packaging
        interoperability specifications
        3. Defines a canonical transformation between the human-readable
        key:value format and a more automation friendly JSON format

        That PEP would then essentially be the first one to use the new
        process: it would supersede PEP 345 as the latest metadata
        specification, but it would *also* redirect readers to the
        relevant
        URL on packaging.python.org <http://packaging.python.org> as
        the canonical source of the
        specification, rather than being the reference documentation
        in its
        own right.

        Cheers,
        Nick.

        [1]
        https://github.com/pypa/pypa.io/issues/11#issuecomment-173833061
        [2] https://github.com/python/peps/issues/388

        P.S. Daniel, if you're currently thinking "I proposed defining an
        incremental metadata 1.3 tweak years ago!", aye, you did. My
        subsequent additions to PEP 426 were a classic case of
        second-system
        syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-system_effect
        (which we
        suspected long ago, hence that PEP's original deferral)

        Fortunately, the disciplining effect of working with a primarily
        volunteer contributor base has prevented my over-engineered
        change-for-change's-sake-rather-than-to-solve-actual-user-problems
        version from becoming reality ;)

        --
        Nick Coghlan   | ncogh...@gmail.com
        <mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com>  |   Brisbane, Australia
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