Thanks for leading these two meetings, Mikel. I appreciate that you’re taking this on even as you clearly communicate that you’d like for some outside the board to lead!
I participated in the first time slot. A few observations: 1) It was 100% a white/tech participation list, and I’d like to think about ways to change this in future meetings. I hear that the group was a little broader for the second time, which is great! 2) Michael predicted a lengthy time for research and fact-gathering. One year is enormous! The fact-finding needs here are not publication-grade and we can get by with small initial metrics if we commit to tracking them over time. For example: we’ve already improved meeting participation diversity in just *four* hours. Go us. 3) Rory brought up the excellent point that some things in our community go undebated and brought up the example of self-evident support for open source technology. Placing a heavy burden of proof on diversity research sends the message that we’re not going to believe a problem exists until it’s spelled out in black-and-white, and nobody has patience for that. I was impressed by Ivan Gayton’s contribution to Heather Leson’s Diary post on this subject: “if you want to discover whether women (or people of color, or LGTBQ people, or people from low-income countries, or other folks less represented in global wealth and power) are experiencing hostility, a good way to do so is to ask them. As opposed to asking them to prove it.” https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Heather%20Leson/diary/391598#comment46229 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Heather%20Leson/diary/391598#comment46229> 4) Some aspects of the diversity discussion foreground northern/western participation channels by (for example) wondering why other communities aren't participating in Talk@, SOTM, or other locations. I’m interested in trying to flip this question to ask why core board and community participants aren't showing up in forums like geographic Telegram groups or other locations called out at https://openstreetmap.community <https://openstreetmap.community/> ? In a recent post, Allan commented that he was often greeted with surprise by local communities who had no experience of an OSMF board member reaching out and saying hello. -mike. ---------------------------------------------------------------- michal migurski- contact info and pgp key: sf/ca http://mike.teczno.com/contact.html > On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Mikel Maron <mikel.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We just concluded second of two meetings today. Lots to digest, thanks to > those who were able to make it. Raw notes are at > https://hackmd.io/3cy5P9fhSvSVI8gkIHIX6w?view > <https://hackmd.io/3cy5P9fhSvSVI8gkIHIX6w?view>. My next action is to digest > a bit, and create a page on the OSMF wiki with some things that came out of > the meeting. > > Other next steps. Maggie is going to start a OSM wiki page to gather previous > research, Rory is looking at tweaks to the Diversity Statement, and Jinal is > putting together a short form to gather details on interest from people who > didn't make this meeting. > > -Mikel > > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron > > > On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 01:41:45 PM EST, Mikel Maron > <mikel.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Last month, the OSMF adopted this Diversity Statement [1] and appointed a > committee [2] to compile research and undertake new research on our > diversity, identify root causes that contribute to any shortfalls, and make > recommendations to help resolve issues and improve. > > If you're interested to take part, join an upcoming initial meeting of the > committee. We're holding a first meeting on Wednesday February 12 at 1400 UTC > [3] on Mumble [4] (in the public OSMF Board of Directors room). Please join > if you'd like to contribute. If you're unavailable at that time, let us know > other times that might work, and we can schedule another kickoff meeting in > addition. > > [1] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Diversity_Statement > [2] https://hackmd.io/ZG8x44H4Skq0CPkcrMTB6A?view > [3] Timezone converter: > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DISC+Meeting&iso=20200212T14&p1=1440 > [4] How to use Mumble: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble > > -Mikel > > > _______________________________________________ > osmf-talk mailing list > osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk
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