On Fri 02/Sep/2022 22:09:27 +0200 marc wrote:
But look here: This is the sending host for the DNG mailing list:

  Received: from mail.dyne.org (ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95])


I think OVH allows classless delegation or at least setting PTRs for fixed
IPs.  I'd guess it's laziness the reason why it isn't set.  The list has no
DKIM signature, which is another sign of it.  However, they have a good SPF
record.

Aha - now that you mention it:

$ dig +nocmd +short dyne.org txt
"google-site-verification=6FghqJroXIvBY8cutq6ouO0RC-a8qynFu6sJR3S-IbA"
"v=spf1 mx ip4:162.19.139.95/32 ip4:195.169.149.119/32 ip4:213.127.207.66/32 
ip4:141.95.83.167/32 ip4:141.95.47.84/32 -all"
"google-site-verification=xUtkCygX3roBSYAEh01x4JWAYzvUarh3igtFGUu99v8"
"google-site-verification=Jl4hhjC5wPXP1owryns13qpeuEksWw_m-8lWNL_Kleg"
"google-site-verification=2XoWrMMTQ7jmgcB_76Y_TQSnWDGhR4e-y_KLqoKOK1Q"

Maybe it is not the spf line that makes a difference here but
the other gunk. I worry that takes us ever closer to changing the E
in email to a G.


No, those records seem to be for the web, not for email.


Maybe related news, and some more reading:

https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/08/today-in-google-broke-email/


The reason why Google breaks email is not their getting stricter.

That blog surprised me when it says that a company cannot afford disk space to hold email for its employees!


Best
Ale
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