Hi :)
Peter Goggin's email seems to have been broken shortly after posting his
first message in this thread.  I don't think we have any other way of
contacting him.


I think the established policy, at least for screen-shots, is to install
the version of LIbreOffice from the official LibreOffice website.  It makes
sense to either have it in parallel alongside whichever version you use for
normal work or to rename the User Profile just to make sure your version
has been set to factory defaults and then apply the appropriate theme and
icon-set.  Mostly this is probably unnecessary - except in cases like this,
where there appears to be a significant discrepancy to figure out.  This is
covered in the Preface that is common to all guides, see pages 5-6.


Wrt the KDE issue i think it might be handy to have a section about the KDE
keyboard-shortcuts issue under the section about using LibreOffice on
Macs.  That's on page 6 at the moment.

I'm not sure if it'd be unhelpful to have a disclaimer mentioning that
there might be similar issues on all DEs.  Detractors might use that to
point out that LO is not the same on every platform when really such issues
are fairly trivial for most normal users.  On the other hand all these
guides seem to be refreshingly honest compared to most tech guides.


At the moment the Preface neatly fits onto 8 pages, which is very
convenient for printing.  There is a lot of white-space on pages 2 and 3.
Page 2 has a section called "Contributors" but on page 7 there are 2
sections that might fit well with that;
"Who wrote this book" and
"Acknowledgements"
The space on page 3 looks like it might be able to fit the first 2 sections
of page 4;
"Who is this book for" and
"What's in this book"

However i don't really like the idea of moving stuff around because
1.  it might then become inconsistent with other chapters and those other
chapters might have varying amounts of white-space on the equivalent pages
so changing those too might lead to some really bad layouts
2.  the whole Preface looks very well laid out and it looks like
considerable thought went into it all.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 23 September 2014 08:29, Sophie <gautier.sop...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> Le 23/09/2014 03:16, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit :
> >
> > On 09/20/2014 10:56 PM, Peter Goggin wrote:
> >> When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat
> >> different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the
> >> forms options described.  I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu
> >> repository.  It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There
> >> are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially.
> >>
> >> 1. Is this the right version of the database software, i.e. the one
> >> the documentation is intended for?
> >> 2. Do I need all of the optional extras?
> >>
> >> I intend to work my way through the document , page by page to ensure
> >> that whatever it says can be done works as described.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Peter Goggin
> >>
> >
> > So, what was the final resolution on this?
>
> None for the moment. I think that we should stick with the TDF
> LibreOffice version because there is always integrations made by the
> distro packagers.
> >
> > Was it decided that:
> >
> > 1. There have been changes that until now no one has noticed.
> > 2. The Linux distribution specific versions break things apart and you
> > simply needed to install the rest of the bits and pieces.
> > 3. The Ubuntu assembled distribution is just different
> > 4. Something I missed?
>
> I haven't checked for all, but I think that the distributions assembled
> by packagers are all different because of the integration. Also
> depending on your desktop environment, you won't access the same
> shortcuts. May be we should add a small text explaining it.
>
> Kind regards
> Sophie
>
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